Kyle Allen #32 with deep ball accuracy

[Mr. Scot]

48 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Pretty sure having DW as your starting left tackle could screw up anyone's ability to throw the deep ball. 

Given. But if we're being objective, not all of his bad throws were attributable to poor protection.

A WCO wouldn't be entirely devoid of deep throws but would be less dependent on them than a Coryell system.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Ja Rhule said:

Cam deep ball accuracy has been dildos over the last few years.

As soon as I saw the thread title I wondered how many replies it'd take for someone's panties to get in a wad and bash Cam. The answer was one reply. LOL!

[SmokinwithWilly]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Given. But if we're being objective, not all of his bad throws were attributable to poor protection.

A WCO wouldn't be entirely devoid of deep throws but would be less dependent on them than a Coryell system.

Agreed, I was thinking David Carr scenario. Once you're spooked and cant shake it off. As bad as our oline was last year, I'm sure ghosts were everywhere.

[stbugs]

Dear lord, why is this even a topic? What’s funny is that as bad as Allen was, he came in week 17 and showed that he was head and shoulders above Grier. To think we passed on Maxx Crosby (he was one of our private visits) to pick Grier almost as if we didn’t have a need for DL.

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Agreed, I was thinking David Carr scenario. Once you're spooked and cant shake it off. As bad as our oline was last year, I'm sure ghosts were everywhere.

I remember Rivera praising him for being able to take those hits and not letting it affect him...

...right before it started affecting him.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I remember Rivera praising him for being able to take those hits and not letting it affect him...

...right before it started affecting him.

Yeah, I don't care who you are when you're getting blasted constantly it's going to affect you.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I don't care who you are when you're getting blasted constantly it's going to affect you.

I remember arguing during more than one lost season that there was no point keeping Newton on the field but some people telling me he was big and tough enough to take it.

[KatsAzz]

With good coaching next year and better protection Kyle Adam may surprise a lot of us.  Regardless of whether he becomes a starter or career backup, i believe he has what it takes to stick in the NFL, if not with us perhaps another team.

[Ja Rhule]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

As soon as I saw the thread title I wondered how many replies it'd take for someone's panties to get in a wad and bash Cam. The answer was one reply. LOL!

Sorry to point out the obvious.  Clearly you knew that as well.  When Cam was healthy,  he had a rocket arm with deadly precision. He’s been awful since shoulder problem.

[TheRed]

10 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

With good coaching next year and better protection Kyle Adam may surprise a lot of us.  Regardless of whether he becomes a stater or career backup, i believe he has what it takes to stick in the NFL, if not with us perhaps another team.

Who?

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Who?

That Opie Taylor looking kid that took over for Cam until he too got crushed.

[Wes21]

15 hours ago, Ja Rhule said:

Cam deep ball accuracy has been dildos over the last few years.

Dildos are pretty accurate at going deep

[stbugs]

13 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I don't care who you are when you're getting blasted constantly it's going to affect you.

It was obvious that it did as the season went on. You could see him getting rid of the ball quickly almost as if he was expecting the hit. Allen got sacked 46 times in 12 starts. That’d be 61-62 in a full season. That’s right about top 5 all time. Two of the top 4 are David Carr and we know what that did to his career.

Again, silly to even bring this discussion back up but our 2019 pass blocking unit is far our worst outside of 2000. Cam was once sacked 43 times, all other seasons were in the 30s even with Shula and his 10 second drops throw it deep routes. We were a sieve from LT to C and even RG and RT weren’t solid. It was obvious that the hits took a toll and made Allen skittish as heck. You could see plays where he “felt” a rush that wasn’t there. It was there a lot, hence Little giving up multiple sacks and I believe 14 pressures in one game.

[Future of the Funchise]

Send him down to the XFL to develop