Rhule decided he didn't need a former head coach on staff

[pantherclaw]

41 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rhule strikes me as a guy who's very confident in himself.

That's not a bad thing if it's warranted.

It can be a disaster if it's not.

He strikes me as a guy whom knows everything he needs to know, and more. 

I can see where his confidence comes from. 

[WOW!!]

20 minutes ago, ellis said:

I don’t buy it, but it’s not my staff. I guess let me put it this way: this is exactly the opposite of how I would build an NFL staff, if I was a head coach. It may work wonders, but keep this in mind: the staff is vastly less experienced at the NFL level than Chip Kelly’s Eagles staff was. 

I agree .. I would have liked to have some insurances in the form of a experienced NFL coach on the staff..  It seem to work for the Rams better then it work for Rivera his 1st 2 years... it might work with having fresh new ideas all over the staff but  having 1 guy who has success and experience in this league seem like a win win situation..

[CPcavedweller]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

He strikes me as a guy whom knows everything he needs to know, and more. 

I can see where his confidence comes from. 

The NFL isn't college. It isn't just coaching that is important and recruiting doesn't turn programs around. Hopefully he is good with numbers and persuading people that winning is more important than that extra $2 mm per year. 

[sml1950]

Tepper is giving  Rhule a free hand in building the team his way.  He’s done it twice before by bringing in players with certain traits at certain positions, playing them early and having coaches who he can depend on to teach/improve.  He doesn’t want coaches who are used to doing it a different way coming in and questioning the “process”.  Vermeil/Coughlin had successful transitions from college to the NFL and will serve a good resources for those kind of questions.  He doesn’t need a former HC to “spoil the stew” by giving untaken advise and then complaining behind his back.

[Billy Love]

45 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Didn't Rivera think the same thing??

Yep. But he had John Madden on speed dial.

[TheSpecialJuan]

58 minutes ago, ellis said:

I don’t buy it, but it’s not my staff. I guess let me put it this way: this is exactly the opposite of how I would build an NFL staff, if I was a head coach. It may work wonders, but keep this in mind: the staff is vastly less experienced at the NFL level than Chip Kelly’s Eagles staff was. 

That's a good thing

[pantherclaw]

34 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

The NFL isn't college. It isn't just coaching that is important and recruiting doesn't turn programs around. Hopefully he is good with numbers and persuading people that winning is more important than that extra $2 mm per year. 

So he strikes you as someone whom would overlook things?

Seems to be the attitude that you're preaching to me. 

[rodeo]

it's a good call, need to minimize boomer influence

[WOW!!]

Just now, rodeo said:

it's a good call, need to minimize boomer influence

Imo it's not a bad thing to have someone on staff with a extensive pro football resume... Simple things like time management and situation thinking is underrated aspects to the game.  Rivera almost got fired for it..

[lightsout]

At the end of the day, football is football folks. The change from college to pro is about flexibility in what you can do offensively and defensively due to the kinds of athletes you can recruit vs your opponent's athletes. Then you have rules, and pacing due to TV timeouts, ref ball spotting, etc.

Chip Kelly failed because he tried to run the Oregon offense in the NFL and he did it right when defenses started changing to be more athletic across the board and negating some of the open field stuff Kelly was known for. Don't forget, that offense was explosive for two seasons. Kelly needed a Cam Newton type to truly run his offense how he wanted and he didn't have that late in his NFL career, so he struggled to field competent teams. Then there was talk about his poor leadership, his lack of building a good OL, add all that together and THAT is why he was fired. Not because he hired a bunch of college coaches and tried to run a college program. There's not even any indication that Rhule and Brady are going to run a college-style offense, because most colleges are now running pro systems or variations of them. The NFL adopted the spread and that is what you see a ton of, more than anything. The types of offenses between college and NFL aren't THAT different, it's just that traditional NFL play-call verbiage can be long or overly complicated where you don't need it to be necessarily. Colleges overly simplify in much the same way, which is where you see college QBs struggle coming into the league often.

Brady has experience within New Orleans, he ran a pretty solid pro-style spread at LSU. We will see an offense similar, if not identical, to that. Defensively, it's always about adapting to offenses at every level and we have a defensive staff that seems good to me on paper but what the hell do I know until they play?

Rhule is not Chip Kelly. They're not even kinda similar.

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, ellis said:

I don’t buy it, but it’s not my staff. I guess let me put it this way: this is exactly the opposite of how I would build an NFL staff, if I was a head coach. It may work wonders, but keep this in mind: the staff is vastly less experienced at the NFL level than Chip Kelly’s Eagles staff was. 

I think the real difference is you dont have coaches who are already told this wont work. If Rhule's staff is full of guys who are hungry and innovative, they will want to figure out how to make it work. Being inexperienced may end up being a good thing. It could be really bad too.

[steven8989]

I just want to know what changed damn Tepper's mind about probably not looking at a college coach and go with some with experience and more analytical. Does Hurney have power over the whole team and has Tepper fooled. I really don't know what's going on at all 

[TheRed]

I get why some would look at this a certain way, but looking at younger coaches in the NFL as of late I just don't think it's going to make or break anything in a significant way.

We had Norv Turner on staff last year who has plenty of head coaching experience, and we still finished on an 8 game losing streak.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, WOW!! said:

Didn't Rivera think the same thing??

Rivera said that not hiring someone with NFL head coaching experience was one of his biggest mistakes.