More takeaways from Rhule's interview with Peter King

[panther4life]

The direction of the team seems harder to predict this year, than any previous year. I know Hurney returns as GM and everyone has their own feelings about him, but I think its safe to say, all of the major roster decisions will go through Rhule. This includes free agency, the draft and final roster. 

Rhule has not said much publicly about his plan, rather playing his cards close to his vest.

In his interview on the Peter King podcast, he did divulge a little more than we have seen elsewhere. Heres some of what I found interesting in that interview that I don't recall being posted in the other thread: 

• Mentions he had an 8 year contract at Baylor, so it was a similar deal to what he got here, insinuated that coming here wasn't about the money but rather the ability to have a commitment to work out a long term plan for success.
• King says from his interview with Cam last training camp, Cam said he's looking forward to being a different QB, not being the guy who runs it all the time or throws it 55 yards down the field, gets to be more mature QB, who has learned the position a lot more, got the sense he was ready to be more of a cerebral player. Rhule agrees, says he thinks he wants to develop his game, have the next part of his career be the best part of his career. Says in our system you have to be able to make the decisions at the line of scrimmage, has to get us in the right play, get us in the right protection, not say hey let the Center handle that. He says QB who has a lot of experience and allow them to make decisions, he will thrive in that. He says the days of just running the QB power are things he can still do but his ability to blend his experience with his rare talent is what he's excited about.
• Said there's nothing worse for an organization than having someone on the last year of their contract(coach or gm), and they're saying hey we have to win now, which impedes their ability to make good decisions for the long term. Said they won't draft a QB they should sign, or sign free agents they should and signs a big ticket item that may save their job but no business works that way. He said you have to make decisions which are good for the long term. Says Hurney and him have the ability to do things the right way, and look for guys who can help for the next 3-4 years, vs panicking for a 1 year success. You look for those types of 3-4 year players every year.r
• King says from his perspective says we are wide open on QB possibilities, Says keeping Cam is the first path to go down and if he's healthy it allows use our picks elsewhere.
• On Cam, said he got the feeling that he wants to be more of a cerebral QB and not being the power runner or always just throwing 50 year bombs. 
• On Joe Brady, said he had some familiarity with him from various college games where they coached against each other,
• Said as he as kept looking at how he wanted to conduct an NFL offense he kept being pulled to the Saints way of doing things in the passing game. Said they have a sustainable offense with a core to it. Says Joe took that offense to LSU and had success with it. As he thought about Cam, said he wanted a QB friendly offense that will keep him upright. Says Joe has no ego, just loves football, loves the X's and O's. Said he loved a quote from him that he loved in reference to the WR'S, "were not here to put on a show, were here to put on a clinic". 
• He said he hired his staff, with guys who love football, not the fame that comes with being in the spotlight. 
• Says he and Snow have made their career on playing hard football. Said paying fans deserve to seem the play hard with effort on defense and wants to be one of the more exact teams on offense. 
• Says we have good players on offense (doesn't mention any compliments about the defense). Going back over the years there's been one score games the Panthers have been in. Wants to find ways to close the gap and win more of those games. 
• Difference in filling out a college roster and NFL roster, is in college you're projecting based on talent and maybe they can play another position. In NFL you only have one 1st round pick and 7 picks total and that he can't miss. Development time is already over and now its about production and what they are going to do immediately and how they fit our roster, the community and if they want to be here.

If you want to listen for yourself here's the link again: Rhule starts at about 14 minute mark and ends at the 38 minute mark. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cadence13/the-mmqb-podcast-with-peter-king/e/67778233#/

In the coming months we will get a much clearer picture of how he wants to structure this team, but I at least feel like there was more info to be gleaned from that interview that wasn't previously discussed.

Also with him saying you want to acquire guys who can be part of a 3-4 year plan vs a 1 year one and done quick fix, that I think an attempt to extend Okung will happen and in the process lower his cap charge for this year.

 

 

 

[Mistuh Jones]

Thanks for the summary 

[TheSpecialJuan]

thanks 

[Harbingers]

“Nothing is worse than having a GM on the last year of their contract. Praises Marty Hurney in the same breath.”
 

[Khyber53]

I like Rhule and what he is saying. Let's hope it goes all as planned.

[stbugs]

7 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

“Nothing is worse than having a GM on the last year of their contract. Praises Marty Hurney in the same breath.”
 

So true. I was wondering if that insinuated that Ron was making a bit more decision making in the draft room to save his ass. One would think that Marty and Rhule had sort of discussed that. I’d pretty much think that he was talking about Ron since Rhule has never had to discuss drafting players for 1 year before at college.

[cardiackat88.]

I think Ruhle wants players that are hungry, want to be here, and want to give their all.

I would love it if he shot someone out of a cannon via being cut or traded for a low pick  mid-season because they were complaining or not playing as hard as they could.

It has been a really long time since I have seen this team's players look remotely exited, or even interested in playing hard and winning.

[PantherBrew]

Just listened. This is the most commitment I have heard from Rhule regarding Cam. He gets rid of a lot of the ifs. He still mentions health, but he definitely is talking about wanting to see what Cam can do in this offense. Literally says that Cam will thrive in thus system and they are excited about it. 

[BrianS]

Pure speculation, but I think the evolving and more positive outlook on Cam from Rhule may have to do with the fact that Rhule is now "in the building" and is able to watch Cam rehab, and learn more about him as a person.  

[TheSpecialJuan]

Peter King is a punk bitch 

[Jared Patterson]

People assumed that trading Turner for Okung was a tank move. I really think Hurney thinks he got the better of the deal, which is wrong no matter how good Okung is this year. I really think Hurney is just a terrible GM. This wasn't a move to tank or we would've got draft picks, just Hurney being Hurney. 

[panther4life]

Just now, Jared Patterson said:

People assumed that trading Turner for Okung was a tank move. I really think Hurney thinks he got the better of the deal, which is wrong no matter how good Okung is this year. I really think Hurney is just a terrible GM. This wasn't a move to tank or we would've got draft picks, just Hurney being Hurney. 

Player for player trade is not a tank move. Anyone assuming that was wrong. As for Hurney pulling the trigger on the trade, I’m sure it had plenty of endorsement from Rhule, we already know it did from the o-line coach. 

[Jared Patterson]

1 minute ago, panther4life said:

Player for player trade is not a tank move. Anyone assuming that was wrong. As for Hurney pulling the trigger on the trade, I’m sure it had plenty of endorsement from Rhule, we already know it did from the o-line coach. 

Yea Im sure, doesn't mean its not an awful trade. Okung has a good year he wants a massive contract at 33. Turner is only 26...... I just think its funny the people on ESPN and draft people think its a move to tank because of how bad the trade was 

[NCBlu]

King said he wanted Rhule a NYG, like the Panthers cant have anything nice.... lol