Panthers trade QB Kyle Allen !!

[firefox1234]

1 hour ago, Catsmiaow said:

 Such dislike for KA. Anyone who dares speak up for the UDFA reserve QB should go follow another team because he wasn't as good as Cam? Just listen to yourself. Its kind of sad.

See below.

1 hour ago, TheRed said:

Oh stop the waterworks already. The "dislike" is for losing. Not even the only Panthers MVP in team history has gotten a pass for losing. Kyle Allen is hardly the only former Panther to get kicked out the door anyway, nobody shed a tear for Thomas Davis or Greg Olsen. Why should a UDFA who played here one year be any different?

 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Julie Donaldson

 

@JDonaldsonNBCS

 

Kyle Allen knows HC Ron Rivera’s system & will be a good back up. A young QB that can make all the throws. Ball comes out quick, is accurate, & good on his feet. Rivera believed he could win w/ him. Saying he made quick decisions & was calm under pressure. TO’s are a concern.

Make all the throws? LOL!

 

[Catsmiaow]

43 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Oh stop the waterworks already. The "dislike" is for losing. Not even the only Panthers MVP in team history has gotten a pass for losing. Kyle Allen is hardly the only former Panther to get kicked out the door anyway, nobody shed a tear for Thomas Davis or Greg Olsen. Why should a UDFA who played here one year be any different?

You're determined not to give him any credit, that's what bothers me- some fan.

He was never meant to be Cam Newton and carry the franchise. If that's the standard you were holding an undrafted QB to, who had never had training camp reps with the first team, then I can't help you.

Any reasonable person would accept that scoring 31 points against the division winner in their house in November coming from double digits behind twice deserves a little respect. 

[Catsmiaow]

1 hour ago, Carl Spackler said:

I’ve never seen a non-Allen Fanboy refer to him as “KA”

Behavioral scientist speaks. Its called abbreviation. Lofty concept I know.

[Carl Spackler]

1 minute ago, Catsmiaow said:

Behavioral scientist speaks. Its called abbreviation. Lofty concept I know.

Uh huh.

[KatsAzz]

5 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

David Newton

 

@DNewtonespn

So basically we're saying Kyle Allen has more trade value than Cam Newton, who appears headed for his release with no takers.

I feel that several other teams in  the NFL, along with the Redskins saw a lot more potential upside to Kyle Allen than a lot of Huddle posters have.

[Cary Kollins]

2 hours ago, Catsmiaow said:

 November 2019

 Kyle Allen 23/36 256 yards 3 TDs 0 ints

Vs NO saints brought the team back from 14-0 down and 31-18 down.

= not close to being a starting NFL QB.

OK.

 

The Golden Calf of Bristol has a few good games too.

 

You don’t get benched for Will Greir because you are starter material.

[stbugs]

5 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Not a bad move at all, but if Bridgewater goes down and we have to depend on Grier, we might not average 10 points a game.  

If Teddy goes down, here comes Trevor!

[stbugs]

5 hours ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

We now have the 2nd and 7th  picks in the 5th round.  Well done.  

I think it’s 6th in the 5th. We rotate with Miami and SD. We go 7, 6, 5, 7, 6, 5, 7. 

[GoPanthers123]

What was asked of Allen ? To win games without a defense and barely an OLine with a lame duck coach.  

Its all about context.  With a solid all around team he will do well.

[Mr. Scot]

17 minutes ago, GoPanthers123 said:

With a solid all around team he will do well.

Cool. How will he do with the Redskins?

[Pantherzack179812]

1 hour ago, Cary Kollins said:

The Golden Calf of Bristol has a few good games too.

 

You don’t get benched for Will Greir because you are starter material.

You can't include games where his HC is a DB coach. 

He was around .500 under Ron, the Saints win was stolen by Slye. God forbid we hand the saints their 3rd loss knowing if we win out and the saints lose to the 9ers we win the south, then lose to Washington as we did.

I think the team had given up after NO, you don't lose games like that and have 6 losses and make the playoffs. 

[Sgt Schultz]

I said this elsewhere, but Allen did what a backup QB is supposed to do.  In the NFL, you expect your backup to come in for anywhere from a few plays to maybe three or four games, at most.  If you are expecting your backup to start more than about three or four games, he had better be a former starter or the heir apparent waiting in the wings and nearly ready for the starting job.  Allen checked the boxes for being a reasonable backup.  By the end, he did not give any indication he was the heir apparent waiting in the wings.

All that said, getting a high fifth rounder for him is great (with the exception of what I said earlier in the thread, Hurney is making the pick).  I would not have had a problem with havinghim around as the backup, but backups that aren't future starters are expendable.

Last year, we knew going in that if our starting QB for most of the year was not named Newton, we were dead.  We had a good run with Allen as the backup, but Allen is a backup, not a starter. 

This year, at least based on the roster and Cam's expected situation right now, if our starter for most of the year is not named Bridgewater, we are dead.  The difference is the expectations this year are almost nonexistent. 

[Steve_Smith_Sr.]

18 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Newton comes with a 20 million dollar price tag for a single season.  Kyle Allen comes with a $50 chick fil a gift card price tag.  

That's true, but apparently the rest of the NFL doesn't think he's a starting QB or they would write that check.