Verge's Mock Draft and Insight thread 2020

[ncfan]

7 hours ago, Verge said:

He expects Trautman to go in the first 15 picks of the 2nd round as well. 

Dropped a lot further than you expected 

Shocked Amik Robertson still sitting there after you mentioned they had a early 2nd grade on him.

[SOJA]

Just now, ncfan said:

Dropped a lot further than you expected 

Shocked Amik Robertson still sitting there after you mentioned they had a early 2nd grade on him.

really hope he's our pick tom 

[CarolinaNCSU]

What's the deal with Amik?  People scared by his height or what?

[bobcat91]

47 minutes ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

What's the deal with Amik?  People scared by his height or what?

He's a 5'8" corner who will be covering 6'2" and up guys. Very few can give up 6 plus inches and win battles in the league. That's why several lower rated CB have already been drafted due to their size. 

[Verge]

11 hours ago, bobcat91 said:

He's a 5'8" corner who will be covering 6'2" and up guys. Very few can give up 6 plus inches and win battles in the league. That's why several lower rated CB have already been drafted due to their size. 

His team had a 2nd round grade on Amik. Not sure what happened. 

[AU-panther]

13 minutes ago, Verge said:

His team had a 2nd round grade on Amik. Not sure what happened. 

They might have also liked Amik a lot, but felt like they had to go with a guy that has better chance of playing outside.  You could think that Amik has a better chance of being a great slot CB then this guy has of being a great outside CB but you kind of paint yourself into a corner.

Maybe if we had picked a CB earlier in the draft they would have jumped on Amik right there.

Maybe he can last to our next pick?

How do you think Pride compares to Hall from Clemson?

 

[Verge]

2 hours ago, AU-panther said:

They might have also liked Amik a lot, but felt like they had to go with a guy that has better chance of playing outside.  You could think that Amik has a better chance of being a great slot CB then this guy has of being a great outside CB but you kind of paint yourself into a corner.

Maybe if we had picked a CB earlier in the draft they would have jumped on Amik right there.

Maybe he can last to our next pick?

How do you think Pride compares to Hall from Clemson?

 

I have not done any studying on Pride, so I am trying to catch up today. I know he is really fast and has awesome boundary and make up speed.  

[Verge]

One last thing for this thread, I will give you a sneak peek into next years draft with my personal top 25 going into next year. Excited to see how this changes going into the next draft. 

1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE 100/100
2. Penei Sewell, T, ORE 99/100
3. Trey Lance, QB, NDST 97/100
4. Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU 97/100
5. Gregory Rousseau, DE, MIA 96/100
6. Justin Fields, QB, OHST  95/100
7. Dylan Moses, ILB, ALA 95/100
8. Patrick Surtain, CB, ALA 94/100 
9. Justyn Ross, WR, CLE 94/100 
10. Trey Smith, T, TEN 93/100 
11. Marvin Wilson, DT, FST 93/100 
12. Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 93/100 
13. Najee Harris, RB, ALA 92/100
14. Jalen Mayfield, T, MICH 92/100 
15. Shaun Wade, CB, OHST 92/100 
16. Tyler Shelvin, DT, LSU 92/100 
17. Walker Little, T, STA 92/100
18. Micah Parsons, LB, PEN 91/100 
19. Samuel Cosmi, T, TEX 91/100
20. Devonta Smith, WR, ALA 91/100 
21. Creed Humphrey, IOL, OKL 91/100 
22. Israel Mukuamu, CB, SC 91/100
23. Travis Etienne, RB, CLE 90/100
24. Alex Leatherwood, T, ALA 90/100
25. Rashad Bateman, WR, MIN 89/100 

[Jesse]

I want to watch more film on Trey Lance but I gotta agree, he should be rated above Fields by January of next year. Ryan Day’s offense is almost a high school offense with a lot of read options and downfield shots. I know NDSU is a legit NFL caliber offense with motions, shifts, under center with progressions and reading coverages. I think that itself lends to Lance > Fields

[Verge]

7 minutes ago, Jesse said:

I want to watch more film on Trey Lance but I gotta agree, he should be rated above Fields by January of next year. Ryan Day’s offense is almost a high school offense with a lot of read options and downfield shots. I know NDSU is a legit NFL caliber offense with motions, shifts, under center with progressions and reading coverages. I think that itself lends to Lance > Fields

Watch his game vs Nicholls and Montana state, pretty insane stuff. 

[beo]

28 minutes ago, Verge said:

One last thing for this thread, I will give you a sneak peek into next years draft with my personal top 25 going into next year. Excited to see how this changes going into the next draft. 

1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE 100/100
2. Penei Sewell, T, ORE 99/100
3. Trey Lance, QB, NDST 97/100
4. Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU 97/100
5. Gregory Rousseau, DE, MIA 96/100
6. Justin Fields, QB, OHST  95/100
7. Dylan Moses, ILB, ALA 95/100
8. Patrick Surtain, CB, ALA 94/100 
9. Justyn Ross, WR, CLE 94/100 
10. Trey Smith, T, TEN 93/100 
11. Marvin Wilson, DT, FST 93/100 
12. Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 93/100 
13. Najee Harris, RB, ALA 92/100
14. Jalen Mayfield, T, MICH 92/100 
15. Shaun Wade, CB, OHST 92/100 
16. Tyler Shelvin, DT, LSU 92/100 
17. Walker Little, T, STA 92/100
18. Micah Parsons, LB, PEN 91/100 
19. Samuel Cosmi, T, TEX 91/100
20. Devonta Smith, WR, ALA 91/100 
21. Creed Humphrey, IOL, OKL 91/100 
22. Israel Mukuamu, CB, SC 91/100
23. Travis Etienne, RB, CLE 90/100
24. Alex Leatherwood, T, ALA 90/100
25. Rashad Bateman, WR, MIN 89/100 

trey lance is just, such an interesting prospect. very interested to see what he does this season, as if we are picking high (given our brutal schedule we should be) he is definitely an option. will check out the game you mentioned to the other poster. also, no kyle pitts? i've seen him in the top 15 on some boards. 

[Verge]

1 minute ago, beo said:

trey lance is just, such an interesting prospect. very interested to see what he does this season, as if we are picking high (given our brutal schedule we should be) he is definitely an option. will check out the game you mentioned to the other poster. also, no kyle pitts? i've seen him in the top 15 on some boards. 

I love me some Kyle Pitts, he is right there in the conversation. Reminds me of Shannon Sharpe.

[ForJimmy]

What out for Jamie Newman and Brock Purdy as a couple QBs to sneak into the first. I would love Lance or Newman personally.

[Icege]

Really hoping to land Creed Humphrey if the team ends up doing much better than expected.