Rivera says they wouldn't want to bring Cam to DC because of Kyle Allen?

[thefuzz]

19 hours ago, Prowler2k18 said:

It’s not the GMs job to maximize the talents of your franchise QB...that’s the job of the coaching staff, specifically OC and QBC. Unfortunately, the Panthers never invested enough in Cam’s development either.

That's not how this works.

[HooverWalls45]

I'm shocked Cam is not on a roster right now, his injuries must have been worse than what i really thought they were.

I was thinking hed come back healthy with so much time off, that must not be the case.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

15 hours ago, Bytes said:

I dont think its as much Cam cared more about fashion. But he didnt evolve his game into more of a passer. And a lot of guys posting in this thread support his "power game". Which ultimately was his undoing. Even now hes posting pics on SM showing how fit he is but you never see him working with any of the paasing gurus out there. Its as much fault of Cam as it is Rons.

Hard to improve as a passer when your best wide receiver since Steve Smith was Ted Ginn followed by an Offensive Lineman that disguised himself as a WR (Kelvin Benjamin) why is it that none of the receivers, lineman, or running backs Cam was forced to play with went on to have success outside of Carolina? I think Dwill and Lafell both had 1 good year outside of Carolina and that was it.

It took getting rid of Ron/Shula to finally put some decent pieces together on this offense. Cam was NEVER put in a position to succeed like they are doing now with Ted.

[Mr. Scot]

16 hours ago, stirs said:

Did Ron lie about Newton?

Ron lied about a lot of things.

What bothered me more with Rivera though was that he'd frequently say he was going to do things, then never do them.

Still waiting for that long look at Cameron Artis-Payne that we're going to take...someday.

[Sgt Schultz]

There is certainly precedent within the Redskins organization for running a QB into the ground, so Rivera will fit well and Haskins better be concerned.

RGIII looked all world until Shanahan decided to turn a blind eye to the fact his knee was in three pieces as they went into a playoff game against the Seahawks.  He probably shouldn't have been in the game to start with, clearly should have been taken out after the first quarter, wound up being knocked out of the game, and was never near the same level again.  I think Shanahan's defense was a Rivera favorite: he didn't tell me he needed to come out.

Yeah, the guy laying in the parking lot beside his car didn't tell me he had a heart attack, either, but I thought calling 911 was a pretty sound idea, anyway.

 

[DamnItJake!]

Lol!! Of course they have Haskins and Allen.. Cam is not going to play back-up!! Redskins not a fit for him.. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t get picked up til the season starts when injuries start to happen.. no off season.. teams probably keeping what they have now

[Shocker]

On 4/30/2020 at 9:16 PM, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Dude I fully expect some of these folks will be whining about Cam 10 years from now

[Khyber53]

On 4/30/2020 at 12:51 PM, electro's horse said:

Damn Ron. Damn.

Redskins coach Ron Rivera said adding free agent QB Cam Newton "depends on circumstances."

Additionally, Rivera stated, "I think with Cam (Newton), and I have thought about it, I mean, it's something that's run through my mind, and it's about the situation and circumstances. I'm not sure I would do it. I'm not sure if I wouldn't do it." Previously the Redskins' new coach said that they passed on Tua Tagovailoa with the No. 2 overall pick because he saw enough from Haskins to give the second-year QB a shot to lead the offense in 2020. Rivera addressed this as well, noting, "You know, the thing about Cam really is the situation ... We're in a situation where we've got two really young quarterbacks, one that's been with us, been in the system, understands how we want things done and the other one is a guy who was taken last year in the first round and shows some promise." Ultimately, it's going to be hard for Cam to find a team until they're able to conduct a physical.

Cam is toast and Rivera knows it, and he knows he's the one that did it. 

That's a lot of reading between the lines. He's basically saying he's got a young first round draft pick that needs a chance to really get the starting job and a back up that knows the system and isn't a real threat to the starter. If anything, he's just saying that because of those circumstances there isn't a good place to put Cam or a way to justify his required salary on a rebuilding team.

It's like trying to explain why you didn't take one of your good friends on a road trip. There's no explanation that is going to assuage the hurt feelings and having a third party point it out just makes it awkward and contentious for all involved.

In the end, Cam has a big price tag (he won't sign for the Lameass Winston $1.1 million deal), and two injury plagued seasons that is keeping him out of the real market. The COVID-19 restrictions are really hurting him, too, as he can't get medical clearance from any team until this is set. In the end, though, this might be a big boon to Cam to take some extra time to heal up, train and reinvent himself a bit.

 

[RASTAN66]

Literally one of the very first things Riverboat did was remove the pong pong tables from the Redskins locker room...

...the last thing he wants to do is go back to playing music in practice.

Carolina wasn't a "serious football place" before but it dang sure will be under Rhule.  Looks like Riverboat trying to do the same, now.

 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

11 hours ago, Shocker said:

Dude I fully expect some of these folks will be whining about Cam 10 years from now

Yep. And will still have Cam avatars and user names.

[mrcompletely11]

I think RR is a terrible game day coach but I think he is terrific in establishing a culture and getting players to buy in to what he is selling.  But his coaching style is still in the 1980's mindset

[RASTAN66]

8 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think RR is a terrible game day coach but I think he is terrific in establishing a culture and getting players to buy in to what he is selling.  But his coaching style is still in the 1980's mindset

2 questions:

Music in practice, good idea?

Holding a player accountable for a travel dress code violation, bad idea?

[thefuzz]

On 5/2/2020 at 8:21 AM, Khyber53 said:

That's a lot of reading between the lines. He's basically saying he's got a young first round draft pick that needs a chance to really get the starting job and a back up that knows the system and isn't a real threat to the starter. If anything, he's just saying that because of those circumstances there isn't a good place to put Cam or a way to justify his required salary on a rebuilding team.

It's like trying to explain why you didn't take one of your good friends on a road trip. There's no explanation that is going to assuage the hurt feelings and having a third party point it out just makes it awkward and contentious for all involved.

In the end, Cam has a big price tag (he won't sign for the Lameass Winston $1.1 million deal), and two injury plagued seasons that is keeping him out of the real market. The COVID-19 restrictions are really hurting him, too, as he can't get medical clearance from any team until this is set. In the end, though, this might be a big boon to Cam to take some extra time to heal up, train and reinvent himself a bit.

 

There is no doubt about the Covid really hurting him....that couldn't be foreseen, but it didn't have to go down this way....

This is the blowback from Cam pushing for so long to not go under the knife.  Weather that was because he thought he could possibly make it back for the playoffs, because he hates getting cut on (most people do, but for football players it's just part of life), or the foot was worse than anyone thought from the get go....

At the end of the day, Cam's decision to push back surgery as long as possibly led to a series of events that are still unfolding for him and our team...this NEVER had to happen like this....even with the virus.

[The Huddler]

On 4/30/2020 at 1:06 PM, electro's horse said:

just look at the difference between how Cam and Lamar Jackson have been treated by their teams

You have a freak athlete, once in a generation type talent at the QB position. What do you do?

Baltimore: Let's devise a new offense that maximizes his strengths against defense's weakness and minimizes the contact he takes

Carolina: QB POWER BABY RIGHT INTO THE LINE

i love Cam

 

but his issue was blowing his shoulder out.  he never really developed his mechanics enough to where he would ise more of his body as opposed to just slinging the arm. once the damage was done, his shoulder is just blown up. 

 

that physical FB nature is what made Cam unique, and his injuries had nothing to do with that.