Rumor: Panthers Interested in Acquiring Haason Reddick

[jfra78]

1 hour ago, bigdavis said:

Just asking -- thought you had to have at least 100 posts to start a thread.

Must have joined before that rule

[sml1950]

Snow developed a walk on into the #13 pick in the draft. Would expect he has a fair idea of how he can use him.

[Soul Rebel]

It makes too much sense. He played under Rhule at Baylor and Rhule has commended Reddick on playing the game the right way. 
 

I definitely feel like Reddick needs the right scheme, coaching and system to thrive, and we have that here. Not saying it’s a guarantee to work, but if it’s to work anywhere for the youngster, it would be here.

Trading AZ one of our miscast LB/DE that Snow doesn’t want plus a 7th should do it. 

[CarolinaNCSU]

Agreed with others above, it's honestly a win-win to me.  Toss a conditional 6th to them based on playing time or something, turns into a 7th if not met.

Panthers get a former 1st round Rhule guy who either works out, or he's good depth for a late pick.  If he works, imagine his contract would still be on the lower end and we just locked in an "underpaid" starter. If he magically explodes and signs elsewhere for bigger money, hello comp pick. 

[Growl]

if we give up a draft pick after we've been atypically apathetic towards compensatory picks im going to be concerned that this team doesn't see the opportunity presenting itself at the QB position in the next draft

we aren't in a dolphins or jaguars position where we have a nice selection of good players whom it just isnt working out with that could fetch a high draft pick if we needed to move up to secure a QB.

 

[Ivan The Awesome]

Offer a fourth next year. See if they bite. 

[*FreeFua*]

Just now, Ivan The Awesome said:

Offer a fourth next year. See if they bite. 

A 4th!?!? For a guy who they would “gladly” move on for?

They’d jump at a 6th but shouldn’t be expecting anything more than a 7th

[KillerKat]

7th and/or Haynes. Nothing more.

[stbugs]

45 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

They can't save any money by cutting him. He is on his rookie deal. All that money is guaranteed. They could perhaps cut him but he has been a productive backup for them, so I don't see why they would unless roster spots are tight.

You are correct although the cap sites do mention the last year salary savings. Seems like they could push it all into 2021. Also, I’d assume there’s offset language, so if he was picked up and paid, they would save cap space and cash. No clue if the agent/team could negotiate a deal to screw Arizona as much as possible in 2020. Looks like $720k is minimum salary for 3 years so they’d save that and could push out the signing bonus so they could save $2.6M or more in 2020 knowing that we’d 100% sign him. We’d probably also not take that offset into account, SMH. 

[Ivan The Awesome]

10 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

A 4th!?!? For a guy who they would “gladly” move on for?

They’d jump at a 6th but shouldn’t be expecting anything more than a 7th

If they haven't "gladly" move on from him, I don't see why a 4th wouldn't motivate them to actually do it. 

[Soul Rebel]

1 minute ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

If they haven't "gladly" move on from him, I don't see why a 4th wouldn't motivate them to actually do it. 

No sir. A 4th is way too much for Reddick. I get your angle, but if that's the price, then it's a hard pass. AZ is about to cut him and have next to no leverage. If anything, we toss them a 6th or 7th just as fodder to ensure we don't have to fight off any competition as a FA.... though I still think he would come here bc of our coaching staff and ability to start. 

[Ivan The Awesome]

So ya'll would risk having him cut and being picked up by another team? Instead of offering a 4th? Okay. I get it. lol

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, stbugs said:

You are correct although the cap sites do mention the last year salary savings. Seems like they could push it all into 2021. Also, I’d assume there’s offset language, so if he was picked up and paid, they would save cap space and cash. No clue if the agent/team could negotiate a deal to screw Arizona as much as possible in 2020. Looks like $720k is minimum salary for 3 years so they’d save that and could push out the signing bonus so they could save $2.6M or more in 2020 knowing that we’d 100% sign him. We’d probably also not take that offset into account, SMH. 

Unless it changed with the new CBA, if you trade a rookie, his cap allotment remains with the team that drafted him. So, there isn't much financial incentive to make those trades(a reason why they are relatively rare). There also isn't much in the way of negotiating the rookie contracts. The scale is set by the NFL. 

[Snake]

A conditional 5th or 6th should do it.