All Charges Dropped Against Former First-Round CB DeAndre Baker

[TylerDurden]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30330519/all-charges-dropped-former-new-york-giants-cb-deandre-baker

 

All that said, would you take a chance on him?

HINT:

YES.

[Jesse]

Look if Ben Roethlisberger is still in the league then this guy should get a second chance.

[Mother Grabber]

unbelievable 

[Bartin]

He was pretty terrible when he did play and honestly he probably did actually do what was alleged. It’s just that they have no winnable case against him with witnesses being charged for extortion.

That said, yeah probably. He’s definitely got the potential to be very good.

[Harbingers]

Was this the one where people supposedly held up the alleged victims at gunpoint?

[AceMan]

Sign him; we need an actually thief in Thieves Ave

[Toomers]

Just now, Harbingers said:

Was this the one where people supposedly held up the alleged victims at gunpoint?

Speaking from not knowing much at all about the situation. What would two NFL players be robbing regular guys for? That never made sense to me. But again, this is about the first thing I’ve really read on it, so I probably missed something. 

[TylerDurden]

9 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Was this the one where people supposedly held up the alleged victims at gunpoint?

From the link:

According to the original arrest warrant, Baker and Seattle Seahawks cornerback Quinton Dunbar were accused of stealing money and watches while armed with semiautomatic firearms. The warrant stated that Baker intentionally threatened victims with a firearm. Prosecutors declined to file criminal charges against Dunbar because of insufficient evidence, but decided to proceed on Baker on Aug. 5.

The victims had already recanted their sworn statements last month in affidavits obtained by ESPN. Julius Lamar, Steven Compton and Tommy J. Hartshaw said during recent depositions that Baker "did not directly or indirectly participate in any robbery or assist in a robbery at the scene or elsewhere." The three men added that they didn't see Baker rob or assault anyone with or without a firearm.

The Broward State Attorney's Office dropped all charges after "the alleged victims and the known witnesses have become uncooperative and their credibility is inalterably tarnished," assistant state attorney Paul R. Valcore said in a statement.

The state had already moved to hold one witness in contempt of court for refusing to answer questions, and the defense moved to have one victim held in contempt for failing to appear for a deposition.

All four alleged victims had previously given sworn statements that they were paid to recant their initial sworn statements against Dunbar. Combined, the four men say they were paid a total of $55,000, according to a previous report by the New York Daily News.

Cohen had publicly expressed concerns about the credibility of the witnesses in the case from the start.

"Knowing that you have admitted liars -- admitted liars, there is no way to cut around it or change the story. They are, at best, admitted liars and convicted felons. You have four guys that are convicted felons and admitted liars. You filed based on their word against a guy that has no criminal history, always gives back to his community," Cohen told ESPN in August. "I wish I could think what they're thinking, but it's an impossibility. It's such bad judgment that you can't even put yourself into their shoes to imagine what he was thinking to file this case."

If convicted, Baker could have faced a mandatory minimum of 10 years and up to life in state prison.

With his legal problems in the past, he is hoping to return to the NFL, a source close to the former Giant told ESPN. Baker has been working out recently in South Florida.

[BrianS]

It would behoove us to at least do our due diligence and find out about the guy.  It's possible he got the shaft.  I can't say anything about him as a player, but realistically, if he checks out "off the field", it would not hurt my feelings if we kicked the tires on him.

[LinvilleGorge]

Yes. Do sign. We're in the perfect situation to give a guy like this a shot.

 

[TheProcess]

I would take a chance on him, kid was a stud on college. 

[Harbingers]

Just now, TikTOK said:

Yup. Baker and Dunbar were both charged. But Dunbar probably paid the victims to shut up so he had his charges dropped and is playing in Seattle. 

That whole thing smelled fishy as fug from the get go. I say we give him a chance on a 2 year(Well the remaining this year and next potentially) and tell him to keep his nose clean outside of football for the duration.

[bababoey]

Guys like this scare me.  You get to the NFL and you have to learn who to hang out with and who to not hang out with.  Right now it looks like Baker has not learned this yet.  It took Ray Lewis almost getting sent to prison to learn this.  If Baker continues to hang around guys like this it is just a matter of time before something else happens and it could be much worse.  If he has learned this lesson bring him in.  If not, stay as far away from him as you can.  That's why you talk to guys and check them out before you sign them. 

[Harbingers]

3 minutes ago, bababoey said:

Guys like this scare me.  You get to the NFL and you have to learn who to hang out with and who to not hang out with.  Right now it looks like Baker has not learned this yet.  It took Ray Lewis almost getting sent to prison to learn this.  If Baker continues to hang around guys like this it is just a matter of time before something else happens and it could be much worse.  If he has learned this lesson bring him in.  If not, stay as far away from him as you can.  That's why you talk to guys and check them out before you sign them. 

The quest is did he learn his lesson from this? Is he still hanging around this type of person? Im assuming his lawyer said chill the fug out and go quiet for a while.