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Does a game like tonight's change your opinion on trading up for Lawrence

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Yes, it's ridiculously unlikely that Jets would even consider it as I doubt Lawrence snubs them like Eli did San Diego. But let's say that did happen and we'd have an opportunity to get Lawrence for a fair amount of draft capital. I would not have realistically considered it before tonight, but seeing the D start to come together and the O being wasted pretty much only because of Teddy, my mind has changed a bit. Place Lawrence on this team right now and we're a playoff team year in and year out. Wouldn't be easy to give up other draft capital that could still help to improve our D, OL, etc. but I think it's clear that QB is by far the most pressing need and it could be worth it if we had the opportunity to get a guy like Lawrence. Just pondering here...

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

That'd take everything short of Matt Rhule's firstborn.

Why? If Lawrence snubbed the Jets they would have no choice at all. If we get to pick 4 (very possible), that's not that far of a drop for them and they would be sending him to the NFC instead of AFC. It would take a fair amount (something like 1st and 2nd this year, 1st next year), but not something crazy that would cripple us in the future...

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Just now, t96 said:

Why? If Lawrence snubbed the Jets they would have no choice at all. If we get to pick 4 (very possible), that's not that far of a drop for them and they would be sending him to the NFC instead of AFC. It would take a fair amount (something like 1st and 2nd this year, 1st next year), but not something crazy that would cripple us in the future...

The trade they would ask for would probably make the Herschel Walker trade look like a good deal.

That, plus we're not guaranteed the #4 pick just yet.

 

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I think the asking price will be 3 1sts and 2 2nds. Any thought about 2 1sts and a 2nd is laughable. Maybe that might fly in a year where there isn't a bona fide star qb expected to go #1. But not this year. So you ask yourself, would you rather have Lance/Wilson/Fields (whoever we take at our current spot) plus 2 firsts and 2 2nds, or Lawrence?

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3 minutes ago, t96 said:

Why? If Lawrence snubbed the Jets they would have no choice at all. If we get to pick 4 (very possible), that's not that far of a drop for them and they would be sending him to the NFC instead of AFC. It would take a fair amount (something like 1st and 2nd this year, 1st next year), but not something crazy that would cripple us in the future...

But he's not going to snub the Jets. They are going to have a fresh new coaching staff and have a poo ton of picks to work with from the Adams trade as well. They also have a staple OT in Becton and a promising young WR in Mims. We have this debate every single year. "WILL THE TOP PROSPECT SNUB THE WORST TEAM?"... No... no, he will not. It simply doesn't happen. 

You could actually argue the Jets are a better situation than us. Our brain dead GM did nothing about two promising young players last year in Samuel and Moton. So instead of signing them to reasonable extensions or moving them for future assets, we'll lose both for nothing it's looking like. Jets all of a sudden aren't sounding so bad.

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7 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

You could actually argue the Jets are a better situation than us. Our brain dead GM did nothing about two promising young players last year in Samuel and Moton. So instead of signing them to reasonable extensions or moving them for future assets, we'll lose both for nothing it's looking like. Jets all of a sudden aren't sounding so bad.

This is a bad take.  Departure of their awful coaching staff aside, the Jets are still a dumpster fire.  Our roster is much more promising than there's by far.

EDIT: Which is not to say I advocate trading away a king's ransom to move up for Lawrence.  I say stay put and if there's a QB available that you think will blossom into a franchise QB, you take him.  If there isn't, you choose someone else.

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