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Does a game like tonight's change your opinion on trading up for Lawrence

t96

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Many moons ago people around here were this high up on Andrew Luck. Some folks around here were ready to anoint him Jesus.
It was a bit sickening actually, but whatever.

Even with a high pick, it is really a gamble. Some of the best QB's in the game were picked in later rounds. So many others picked 1-5 overall turned out to be average at best.

We don't trade ANYTHING to move up!

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No.  No single player is worth that much capital.  Even a QB as good as he is right now.

Lawrence will be the king of New York soon so don't worry about him.  He will get laid more than Joe Nameth ever did in that town and probably will never live up to the hype.  Because as good as he is he won't fix the Jets.

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If the Panthers have the 4th pick, I'm sure there will be a conversation, but I doubt it goes beyond that.

Consider this - the Panthers don't have to have Lawrence to be a better team for years to come - they simply need a QB that is more competent than Teddy. That's the question that needs to be asked, "Are we upgrading the QB position?" That answer is easy with Lawrence, but he's not an option. Ask that about Fields, Wilson, etc. I'd say it's likely that a couple of them are, by a long shot. That's what they should be focusing on.

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If for some reason, Lawrence said he wouldn't play for the Jets, their demands for a trade would be extremely high and we would have to get in a bidding war.  Might end up having to give them 4-5 picks or more.  

A more interesting and likely scenario is if we end up with picks 5-6 and Cincy has the third pick.  Cincy won't take a qb, so do we make a move to leapfrog whomever is in front of us?  

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17 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

If for some reason, Lawrence said he wouldn't play for the Jets, their demands for a trade would be extremely high and we would have to get in a bidding war.  Might end up having to give them 4-5 picks or more.  

A more interesting and likely scenario is if we end up with picks 5-6 and Cincy has the third pick.  Cincy won't take a qb, so do we make a move to leapfrog whomever is in front of us?  

No!   There is no other QB worth using picks to trade up for. Stay at your pick and take best available. 

I agree that Lawrence is very unlikely, and the cost would seem to be crazy. However, if he approached it like Eli did in 2004, it drops the cost. Eli came out and said he didn't want to play for the Chargers, AND that he only wanted to go to NY.  Here was the trade....

Giants got 2004 #1 overall

Chargers got 2004 #4 overall, 2004 3rd, 2005 1st, and 2005 5th

Somebody needs to convince Dabo to talk to Trevor about Charlotte. You know 2 hours from Trevor's beloved Clemson. When both teams are playing at home, Trevor could watch his Tigers on a few Saturdays, and Dabo could watch Trevor a few Sundays. Have Trevor tell the Jets he only wants to play for the Panthers, just like Eli told the Chargers about the Giants. Trevor has leverage of a potential return to Clemson leaving the Jets without him or draft compensation.

 

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12 hours ago, t96 said:

Why? If Lawrence snubbed the Jets they would have no choice at all. If we get to pick 4 (very possible), that's not that far of a drop for them and they would be sending him to the NFC instead of AFC. It would take a fair amount (something like 1st and 2nd this year, 1st next year), but not something crazy that would cripple us in the future...

I would do 1st and 2nd this year, plus 1st next year in heartbeat, but that is nowhere close to what it would take.

You have to remember it wouldn't only be us trying to trade up, there are probably 10 teams who would give up alot for him.

The Jags would probably give a better deal than that and the Jets would only have to go back one spot.

3 1st and 3 2nds is probably a good starting point, and I doubt that would even get it done.

 

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39 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

If for some reason, Lawrence said he wouldn't play for the Jets, their demands for a trade would be extremely high and we would have to get in a bidding war.  Might end up having to give them 4-5 picks or more.  

A more interesting and likely scenario is if we end up with picks 5-6 and Cincy has the third pick.  Cincy won't take a qb, so do we make a move to leapfrog whomever is in front of us?  

Pick three equals Penei Sewell.

I'm no more sure you could talk the Bengals out of that pic that I am that you could talk the Jets out of Lawrence.

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Pick three equals Penei Sewell.

I'm no more sure you could talk the Bengals out of that pic that I am that you could talk the Jets out of Lawrence.

If we trade with them, they would know we were going to pick a qb.  If they feel that the team at 4 would also pick a qb, then they might be willing to trade.  They would still have a good shot at Sewell, and pick up a couple of additional picks or players at the same time.  I would think it would be worth the risk, they might as well.   

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1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

If we trade with them, they would know we were going to pick a qb.  If they feel that the team at 4 would also pick a qb, then they might be willing to trade.  They would still have a good shot at Sewell, and pick up a couple of additional picks or players at the same time.  I would think it would be worth the risk, they might as well.   

Maybe. That might also be a risk they're not willing to take.

It's also worth pointing out that their draft position is a lot more locked in right now than ours is.

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