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MHS831

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5 hours ago, MHS831 said:

that we are witnessing the beginning of a dynasty?  Yes, it was sad to win, but to see the way we played--the preparation--and across the field, a lackluster, arms folded coach with everything to play for---it showed me how different Rhule is going to be over Rivera.

I am seeing guys like Franklin, Hartsfield, Zylstra, Haynes, Miller, Taylor, Carter, Cannon, R.Smith, Burris, Scott, etc. playing at a high level--we have 25% of our cap space in dead money and we have--sitting on the sideline with an ice pack---Okung, KK Short, and CMC.  Half of the resources on this team were not on the field today-and they were playing lights out.

Yes I was pissed, but I am also seeing what turned around 2 college programs--I am seeing a motivator's magic.

People will want to play here--Rhule will get the most from the bottom of the roster.  Once we get a few key pieces--like a QB, TE, LT, and maybe a DB or two, I think we will be very

 

 

You listed a bunch of practice squad fodder as playing at a high level? Seriously? Stay off the weeeeeda

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3 hours ago, Carolina Mike said:

Maybe this was planned out to hamstring us with Teddy for a few years while we built up the rest of the team... then make a push after next season on a quality QB... 

That deal for Teddy just made no sense to me.

Ah yes, the old, build out the team everywhere but qb, thus making it almost impossible to acquire a great qb. Works everytime, 1% of the time. 

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11 hours ago, MHS831 said:

that we are witnessing the beginning of a dynasty?  Yes, it was sad to win, but to see the way we played--the preparation--and across the field, a lackluster, arms folded coach with everything to play for---it showed me how different Rhule is going to be over Rivera.

I am seeing guys like Franklin, Hartsfield, Zylstra, Haynes, Miller, Taylor, Carter, Cannon, R.Smith, Burris, Scott, etc. playing at a high level--we have 25% of our cap space in dead money and we have--sitting on the sideline with an ice pack---Okung, KK Short, and CMC.  Half of the resources on this team were not on the field today-and they were playing lights out.

Yes I was pissed, but I am also seeing what turned around 2 college programs--I am seeing a motivator's magic.

People will want to play here--Rhule will get the most from the bottom of the roster.  Once we get a few key pieces--like a QB, TE, LT, and maybe a DB or two, I think we will be very good. 

I hear you.  If you look at this team, especially defensively, from the beginning of the year until now you see a huge improvement.  At one point we were on pace to have the worst 3rd down defense in NFL history.  We've avoided that.  

However, I also agree with we'll continue to sit at mediocrity until we get a QB that can take advantage of all the weapons this team has. That said, I do believe from the coaching staff all the way to the top that this concern isn't going to be overlooked. 

I do believe that Rhule will get the most out of ALL the players on his roster and he'll get us to back to back winning season and we have a chance to be a perennial playoff team.  

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Just now, Carolina Cajun said:

Generally agree, but Rhule isn't a "motivator", that was Rons schtick, he was the players coach who motivated players, Rhule drives by using data, and actually using young players is important to that because you gotta see if they progress, something Ron refused to do.  

I agree he might use analytics but he is a great motivator and makes Riverboat Ron looking like a two time gambler.  

I saw a football life on Mike Tomlin and see some of those traits in Rhule.  He's not as blunt as Tomlin but he's definitely gets the most out off all his players. 

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11 hours ago, stbugs said:

I said it before, the coaching staff sets the culture and winning makes it all better as well. Losing today wouldn’t have changed the culture Rhule is putting in place. This team hasn’t looked like the last two teams who clearly gave up at the end of the year. That’s nice to see. Sucks to feel like we might have dropped out of range to replace Teddy which is the key IMHO. We have plenty of weapons and can keep working on the D and OL but we need a 2011 Cam to get excited about.

And let's face it, if you don't have a team spirit that wants to win, tries to win every single game no matter how late in the year, then it doesn't matter who you draft as a QB.

I offer the Lions, Jaguars, Texans and Chargers as examples.

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11 hours ago, FakePlasticTrees said:

The mediocrity and futility I predicted when the Panthers signed Bridgewater comes to fruition. The team manages to grab defeat from the jaws of victory with a victory and irony reigns supreme. I am utterly fed up.

I hate to think of the opportunity cost of an otherwise meaningless win and it’s impact into the future. All you had to do was lose a game. 

 

Zod promised us they would Trevor. They did not Trevor.

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