Fields dropping in McShays draft

[unicar15]

5 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

"Catching a falling star" is something the Panthers have done a couple of times.

It hasn't produced good results.

The last falling star I remember is Lotuleilei and I feel like that worked out really well. 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

The last falling star I remember is Lotuleilei and I feel like that worked out really well. 

The last one would have been Greg Little.

[Basbear]

13 minutes ago, stirs said:

I would not pay a huge amount of attention to the talking heads, when one of them has someone dropping, the rest soon follow suit.  And most of the time, they have no clue

The talking heads do not have the same information as past years, poo throwing was the normal at times, but it may reach all-time levels with the coming draft. Still have no clue on medicals, team combines, if 30 player vist will be allowed(doubt is high with zoom zoom) etc etc. Its a newworld for everyone, including how to scout players. I think the biggest advantage would be older scouts that have worked hard at establishing truthful relationships with coaches, strength coaches, and other scouts. Lies will be everywhere and its much harder to find the truth. 

What if Cam Newton was in this draft, he'd be anywhere form if he sat out this past year too. Like #2 overall to undrafted pool. 

[jdr6000]

Panthers aren’t going to draft a quarterback. The sooner you accept that, the less it will hurt on draft weekend.

[KillaCamNewton]

3 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Fields is dropping, Lance is a project QB, and Wilson has had major injuries to his shoulder and hand.  Parsons is ranked 3 on this list, if he is available when we pick, it should be a no brainer.

You’re getting poo’d but youre right. 
 

We clearly need an upgrade at QB but if the right guy isnt there why waste a Top 10 pick and pray he pans out when we also have a clear need at MLB and theres a guy that could lead our defense for a decade there?

there are more ways to get a QB than having a Top 10 pick. Id much rather have the cant miss MLB who could very well be the missing piece to an elite defense than picking a QB with a bunch of question marks (all of them except Lawrence have them) and hoping it’s “the guy”

[ImaginaryKev]

Lol Some of yall are just afraid of drafting a QB period unless it's a spotless prospect which doesn't exist, just admit it sheesh

Life is a risk and football ain't that serious anyway, please stop being so afraid bc these signing bonuses for players literally aren't coming outta your pocket despite what you tell yourselves

[ImaginaryKev]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

The last one would have been Greg Little.

Was he an actual falling star or was he looked at as a risk by everyone but Hurney who considered him a falling star bc that's more what I remember

[Varking]

3 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Was he an actual falling star or was he looked at as a risk by everyone but Hurney who considered him a falling star bc that's more what I remember

It was a reach 

[stirs]

Aaron Rogers worked out quite well.

It is the "box of chocolates" no matter what all of us football experts say

[ImaginaryKev]

Yeah, lots of folks looked at him as a disappointing player bc he was a five star guy who never lived up to it at Ole Miss and I don't remember him being looked at as a first rounder by anyone except Hurney, who pulled an Armani Edward's and completely overvalued him

[ImaginaryKev]

Star L was looked at as an instant starter and immediately good run defender as his floor, was frequently mocked in the top ten til he dropped bc of that heart issue which was a blessing for us bc we'd struck out on DTs

[stirs]

Scouts will be looking at 2 years worth of film.  Gonna be some long hours for those guys

[Mr. Scot]

19 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Was he an actual falling star or was he looked at as a risk by everyone but Hurney who considered him a falling star bc that's more what I remember

There's different kinds of falling stars.

Lotulelei was the kind that fell because something scared people off. Those can be about 50-50.

The other kind are the problem. Those are the ones that everybody else's scouts and personnel people have graded low, but we've graded high. With them, it generally doesn't take long to determine why everyone else was passing, and what it was we missed.

The Panthers have had the first kind maybe once or twice, but the second kind several times.

With Marty gone, maybe it changes. That's the hope, at least.

[Panthers8969]

I would be interested in the data if anyone has it on a macro level of "falling star" prospects and how they panned out. Anecdotal examples like Star and Little don't really mean anything