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2021 Senior Bowl


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1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

Jamie Newman’s draft stock will be trending way up after the week

Reminds me a lot of Jordan Love last year.  Lots of intrigue surrounding him, but teams aren't lining up to be grab him either.  It's probably going to be the same scenario where he's taking to be the #2 guy and groomed to eventually be the #1 guy a few years later.  In other words, a few select teams looking for a very specific role will end up drafting him.  We need more immediate help...not necessarily this coming season, but definitely in 2022.

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On 1/16/2021 at 10:43 AM, Untouchable said:

RB isn't an immediate concern with an elite talent like McCaffery on the roster. With him out, Davis played very well while also getting good reps from Bonnafon, Samuel and Rodney Smith too, but part of building a consistent playoff roster is hitting on depth pieces too. Only McCaffery is currently locked in to return with Davis being a free agent and there being no dead cap associated with the final year on Bonnafon or Smith's contracts. Hill's skill set is of particular interest in this group

Hill has good vision and can be productive as shown by leading the SEC in rushing 2 years ago. The problems with Hill are concerning. He dances too much before hitting the hole. The bigger issue is he has personality red flags. Frankly, he's a head case. Though he denied it, he was permanently suspended from the team after the Kentucky game for going off on his team and coaching staff at halftime. Apparently frustrated over production and touches, he burned his bridges and was gone. I would not draft Hill

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45 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

 

That's the position group I'm looking the closest at as well.

Alex Leatherwood, Liam Eichenberg, Dillon Radunz and Adrian Ealy(as a RT) would be ideal to coach at OTs.

Creed Humphrey, Landon Dickerson and Drake Jackson for centers.

Trey Smith, Deonte Brown, Robert Jones, Alaric Jackson (potential swing tackle as well) for the guards.

I couple of weeks ago someone posted a bio on Creed Humphrey and I was sold.  This guy is super smart and will be a huge addition to our O-line.  If he's on our team I am going to tell you now. Rhule is going to fall in love with him.  

Too high for us at 8 but maybe trade down and get him in the latter portion of round one or at 40 in round two. 

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2 hours ago, Zod said:

Good thread, thanks for creating. 

I too am most excited about our coaches seeing these offensive linemen up close. One of the few positions groups you can find immediate depth at. 

yes, and those OL drills expose weaknesses like no other drill in football. 

HOWEVER....Remember Norwell was not good in these drills, but was good functioning as a member of a unit.  So it is part of the process--not all of it. 

SIDESTORY:  At an OTA, my sons were getting autographs and Norwell was right beside us, talking to an obnoxious Ebay scavenger.  They man wanted a picture after getting his autograph, and Norwell let him.  The man said, "Why have I not ever seen you smile?"  Norwell said, "I haven't either."  

 

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He needs to have a good week. He's been out of sight and out of mind.

 

26 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Reminds me a lot of Jordan Love last year.  Lots of intrigue surrounding him, but teams aren't lining up to be grab him either.  It's probably going to be the same scenario where he's taking to be the #2 guy and groomed to eventually be the #1 guy a few years later.  In other words, a few select teams looking for a very specific role will end up drafting him.  We need more immediate help...not necessarily this coming season, but definitely in 2022.

Yeah Newman does need to have a good week after opting out. At the end of the day you can’t replicate live game snaps so it’ll be interesting to see how he does.
 

Newman doesn’t lack athletic ability and has a nice quick release with good touch on his passes. He’s shown the ability to hang in the pocket and deliver some good balls into tight windows. Newman’s footwork is so reminiscent of Cam’s when taking snaps from shotgun. 

He’s definitely the most intriguing QB prospect at the Senior Bowl though IMO and I’m glad the Panthers are going to get a good look at him

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7 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

yes, and those OL drills expose weaknesses like no other drill in football. 

If only Marty wasn’t having a meatball sub when Little was going through OL drills at the combine.

On a real note, I agree. That’s why I liked the 2nd round OL like Risner, Taylor, McCoy and Jenkins so much and hated the Little pick so much. I honestly still can’t fathom how any respectable evaluator would take Little in front of those guys (except Taylor who went right before). The only way is to lock in because he was a LT and ignore anything else because you couldn’t watch Burns impress at the same combine and ever think that Burns and Little were on the same planet and both worth pick 16. So glad we got lucky and Burns fell.

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38 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I couple of weeks ago someone posted a bio on Creed Humphrey and I was sold.  This guy is super smart and will be a huge addition to our O-line.  If he's on our team I am going to tell you now. Rhule is going to fall in love with him.  

Too high for us at 8 but maybe trade down and get him in the latter portion of round one or at 40 in round two. 

Me too.  I would take him in the second round and try to get Scott back on a cheap deal and draft a T in the third round---It would not hurt my feelings if the first 3 picks were QB, T, C.

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I wouldn't be totally opposed to Humphrey in the 2nd round if he fell to us.  I'm looking for a LT there, but if the value isn't there for a LT and Humphrey is still on the board...the choice would be obvious.  I definitely want a center this draft, however I am targeting one in the middle rounds.

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26 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Me too.  I would take him in the second round and try to get Scott back on a cheap deal and draft a T in the third round---It would not hurt my feelings if the first 3 picks were QB, T, C.

This is what I read about him.

The full dream list. 

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/lists/panthers-2021-nfl-draft-holiday-wishlist-prospects/?fbclid=IwAR21Q-fYKNkfeX_Qj2UH9yBtJv6IumTdLbVJrXrIK0Ijrj_b7uT1lEH3aC4

 

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Creed Humphrey, C/OG, Oklahoma: 6-foot-5, 315 lbs

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Humphrey is “country strong” and sets the tone up front as the leader of Oklahoma’s offensive line. Strength, footwork, strong hands, leverage – you name it he’s got it. In 2019, he graded out as the seventh-best offensive lineman in the country according to PFF.

Humphrey is not only a physical force, he is an extremely intelligent player as well. He has been captain of the offensive line his last three years at Oklahoma, calls out blitzes and diagnoses defensive schemes pre-snap on a regular basis.

As a matter of fact, some scouts were concerned about former Sooner Kyler Murray’s pre-snap abilities because Humphrey would call out everything for him pre-snap. Another plus to Humphrey’s game is that he can play at either guard position as well, which would help the Panthers tremendously as they look to sure up their shaky interior line.

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38 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Me too.  I would take him in the second round and try to get Scott back on a cheap deal and draft a T in the third round---It would not hurt my feelings if the first 3 picks were QB, T, C.

A G would be nice too. If we extend Moton we need 1 T and 3 IOL. It would be good if we don’t have LT blindness like Marty did and our interior still sucks. I’d honestly rather go QB, C/G, C/G knowing we are far more likely to solidify the interior and use the 2022 1st on a T if that may be a better class for 1st rounders. I don’t want to reach on a maybe T if there’s a sure thing G. Our best OL recently had Oher at LT and the 2017 OL was decent as well with speed bump because the IOL was solid. Easier to help out a tackle  when the interior is solid and we have a split RT 

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Ian Thomas has potential but he is also strongest attacking the seams and isn't Bridgewater's strength nor is it something the offensive scheme likes to do. In fact TE seems forgotten in our offense but improving the position can be a big help in the red zone. Hunter Long is the highest rated TE at the Senior Bowl but he's working with Miami. Of the ones the Panthers are working with, I've started looking into Tre' McKitty lately and I like him as he has a ton of athleticism and is a decent blocker too. Noah Gray's skillset also looks like a good fit in our offense.

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