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Fox analyst says he heard that Watson has interest in Panthers!

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

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Ask the Rockets. They saw the writing on the wall and did the sensible thing. You think that paying top dollar for a backup QB won't affect the Texans' bottom line. How many games did they win last season, much less pre-Watson? 

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9 minutes ago, top dawg said:

If they keep him locked up in contractual purgatory, his refusal to play for them, or, worse, play under contentious circumstances that affect and effect the desired results, will bring them to their knees, and they're already pretty low! 

It’s amazing how people can’t seem to grasp this.

If DW doesn’t want to play there he won’t. Simple as that. 

It does no favors to either side having him sit out or him showing up disgruntled. 

Just saw something similar happen in the NHL this week with Pierre-Luc Dubois. 

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39 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Not only that, but Fitterer has earned his lunch money scouting mid to later round players and UDFAs! You can't be a scared motherfuger, and the Seahawks, as well as other successful franchises, aren't timid about trades or trading back and somehow still continue to compete year in and out!

Yeah that’s because they have one of the best QBs in the league! Having that makes everything else so much easier!!

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It’s amazing how people can’t seem to grasp this.

If DW doesn’t want to play there he won’t. Simple as that. 

It does no favors to either side having him sit out or him showing up disgruntled. 

Just saw something similar happen in the NHL this week with Pierre-Luc Dubois. 

Exactly!  The Texans have their backs against the wall here. If they refuse to work with DW4, they stand to lose the most.

Their 1st and 2nd round picks belong to Miami. They have no cap space. Looking at these two facts, they cannot really improve their team at this point. Watson not playing, and no way to improve and that team is a complete dumpster fire. 

Trading Watson even getting a little less than desired in the trade, gives them so much more in other areas. They can actually have draft picks to start a rebuild, including a chance to draft their next QB. Jersey sales from a rookie QB will far outperform sales of a QB that will eventually be out. No lingering drama, move on to the next chapter with your new GM, and hope he can build something like you hired him to do. Let him start drafting talent while some salary clears the books. Let your new GM start over and build a foundation for long term success. 

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The team would be crazy to give up so much capital for DeShaun Watson. He isn't worth CMC, Burns, or DJ! IMO The most that any team should give up for Watson is maybe 2021 Round 1, 2021 maybe 4th or 5th round, 2022 1st Round, and maybe a pick maybe 4th or 5th round! Because whoever signs him is facing a huge salary and dead cap!

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According to Fitterer, we will be in on all conversations. He also believes the SB success in Seattle had a lot to do with RW on a rookie contract. 

I also feel like the year they drafted Wilson, they signed Flynn to a HUGE contract to be their starter.

The 'Hawks were always aggressive in pursuits of targets as well as moving around the draft, so IDK what direction the braintrust is leaning. It would appear that DW would both go for, as well as against Fitterer's vision and mantra.

I could see Tepper wanting DW at all costs. I could see Rhule wanting to draft a QB and bring this process along slowly without gutting the team of draft and player capital. 

In Fitterer We Trust.

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I think a lot of folks here have an inflated sense of how valuable draft picks are vs. an elite franchise QB.

Draft picks are only as valuable as the players you pick with them. Short of hitting on a franchise QB with one of the 1st rounders we'd be giving to Houston, Watson's value far exceeds the players we'd get with those picks, save for some kind of miracle run of drafting that rarely ever happens in the NFL.

I, for one, don't think it'll take quite as much to acquire Watson as many seem to. The 3 1st rounders thing seems to be assumed, but is just speculation. Watson's desire to get out does reduce the leverage the Texans have in trading him, as does his no-trade clause and the fact that he has to agree to the team he's traded to.

It wouldn't surprise me if the eventual trade - by us or another team - looks a lot more like the Khalil Mack trade to Chicago than something that includes 3 1st rounders and a big name player.

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