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We're playing with backup tackles...

Mr. Scot

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Khyber53 Grand Master

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32 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Let's leave them on an island.

I'd have expected some Max Protect in there. Fewer receiving options, but when you have a quarterback like Mahomes, it can still work.

Would have made sense to adjust to that (or something) once they saw what was happening last night, but apparently not.

Andy Reid is universally considered an offensive genius, but he's been known to make some positively inexplicable decisions in the playoffs from time to time.

I'd have to say this is one of them.

They did the exact same thing we did (even down to the same guy at LT) in 2015. They also had a strong armed mobile QB they thought could get them out of trouble (just like we did). They gave up on their running game and QB keeper options (just like we did).

The results were eerily similar to ours.

 

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1 minute ago, Khyber53 said:

They did the exact same thing we did (even down to the same guy at LT) in 2015. They also had a strong armed mobile QB they thought could get them out of trouble (just like we did). They gave up on their running game and QB keeper options (just like we did).

The results were eerily similar to ours.

 

Yeah, they abandoned the run VERY early on. I get that the Bucs are a great run D, but you can't just flat out abandon the run early especially when you're struggling to pass protect.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, they abandoned the run VERY early on. I get that the Bucs are a great run D, but you can't just flat out abandon the run early especially when you're struggling to pass protect.

I agree and there's a certain part of the run game that is about inflicting hits on the opponent's d-line. And those back-up tackles can be better put to use as run blockers than pass blockers. 

And, as much as I'm not a fan of Gronk's, I have to give him credit for being a beast when it came to blocking during the game.

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14 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, they abandoned the run VERY early on. I get that the Bucs are a great run D, but you can't just flat out abandon the run early especially when you're struggling to pass protect.

Vintage Philly Andy Reid. 

Tampa never did shut the KC run game down.  KC simply opted away from any kind of balance and refused to aid the OL.  

 

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22 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, they abandoned the run VERY early on. I get that the Bucs are a great run D, but you can't just flat out abandon the run early especially when you're struggling to pass protect.

When they came out and looked like they were running pretty well in the first drive of the second half, I thought maybe things had changed.

Tampa scoring pretty easily on the responding drive probably killed that.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Lotta folks on Twitter pointing out that in last night's game, Eric Bieniemy didn't exactly show anybody they made a huge mistake not hiring him as a head coach.

Todd Bowles, on the other hand...

(and Byron Leftwich)

Yeah one bad game as OC and it equals a Future bad HC...just like yrs of excellence at OC or DC equals great HC...BS!

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Let's leave them on an island.

I'd have expected some Max Protect in there. Fewer receiving options, but when you have a quarterback like Mahomes, it can still work.

Would have made sense to adjust to that (or something) once they saw what was happening last night, but apparently not.

Andy Reid is universally considered an offensive genius, but he's been known to make some positively inexplicable decisions in the playoffs from time to time.

I'd have to say this is one of them.

Just let me take this moment tonsay that so.many fans castrated our coaches for doing this.  

While fans automatically think backups should get help, players are expected to execute the playback, and I promise you that adding help to the tackles isn't a large part of any teams playback. 

Yes, it ended up costing cost the Chiefs the  game, but throwing out most of what your offense has executed for the year, would have most likely ended in a similar result. 

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I expected KC to put on a better show as well. This reminded me a lot of our Super Bowl loss to Denver, adjustments were never made. Another similarity is the bigger story in both games.

In our game, it was all about Peyton. Everyone knew it was his last game and what better way to end his career than with a SB win.

In the KC, it was all about Brady. Leaving NE and immediately making it to the Super Bowl with another team. But that's not all, Brady made history with this team. Becoming the 1st NFL team to play a SB in their own stadium and the 1st to win a SB in their own stadium.

Both stories were bigger than the game!

As far as was Eric Bieniemy not showing other teams that they made a mistake,  I disagree, 30 other teams were watching the game from home....

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5 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Andy Reid is universally considered an offensive genius, but he's been known to make some positively inexplicable decisions in the playoffs from time to time.

I'd have to say this is one of them.

Sometimes being really good/skilled and having lots of success at what you do ends up being your undoing. You become blind in your "knowledge". You can't learn (see) when you already "know".

He's a great coach, but for me, that's what happened to him, and has happened to many others at times - in all walks of life.

 

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11 minutes ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

Sometimes being really good/skilled and having lots of success at what you do ends up being your undoing. You become blind in your "knowledge". You can't learn (see) when you already "know".

He's a great coach, but for me, that's what happened to him, and has happened to many others at times - in all walks of life.

 

I could see that.

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