Report: 49ers called Panthers about Teddy Bridgewater

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Breakpoint4510 said:

Give your team more credit than that. The only credible source is from either the Panthers or the Lions, and none of this anonymous crap.  

It wasn't anonymous. It came from very credible sources.

You on the other hand are both anonymous and a non-established source, so what reason would I have to believe you?

[TheCasillas]

3 hours ago, Breakpoint4510 said:

If Teddy was the only quarterback that missed throws and had receivers make plays for him, you would have a point. But for some one who claims to know Teddy as well as you say, you seem to have surrendered your independent frame of reference, in order to following this finicky crowd chasing unicorns. I'm guessing you just need to fit in. Maybe you could do better.  

Dude exactly! I’ve been saying on here all season!! We need to extend teddy... the real problem is our receivers! Preeech bro!

[SteveSmithTD89]

1 hour ago, Breakpoint4510 said:

I thought you said you weren't into unicorns.  You really think the Panthers would give up their first pick for a player with two years left in his career? So with your top lip you claim that Rhule laid down the law to Teddy , and with your bottom lip you claim that Rhule was ready to throw away his first pick in the upcoming draft for a washed out 40 year old. Is he someone with credibility, or is he a desperate rookie throwing hail marys.

 

Seriously, have you been living under a rock? Nothing I said was false, its all verifiable and well documented. This isn't me speaking out of both sides of my mouth. This isn't a unicorn scenario. 

We offered out 1st, 5th and Teddy for Stafford. We were reviewing his dang medicals before the Rams upped their offer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nfl/lions/.amp/news/panthers-offer-for-stafford-revealed

Matt Rhule did lay it out for Teddy, here's the article for that too. 

https://www.nfl.com/news/matt-rhule-says-teddy-bridgewater-has-to-have-a-tremendous-offseason

And Teddy won us 4 games and kept us competitive? I greatly disagree. Outside of the 1st ATL game 2 of our 4 wins with Teddy at the helm were some of his worst games with us. 1 TD and 5 FGs against the Chargers squeaking by a rookie QBs first start and then 2 TDs and a pick against the Cards who the defense shut down and held Hopkins to the worst game of his season and held Kyler Murray to 130yards. Hardly the reason we won those games.

 

Hell, by that logic Kyle Allen won us 5 the year before and kept us competitive in several games as well.

From Week 10 on Teddy averaged 266 yards, threw 2 TDs and 4 picks while being sacked 12 times. Assuming that's the entire teams fault excluding Teddy though right? 

I dont hate Teddy. I would love nothing more for him to suddenly become a transcendent QB. The team would be far better for it. I just don't see a QB suddenly making that leap and changing everything about them going into their 7th year. 

I'm done going back and forth on this one man. Like I outlined before, if Teddy was half as good as you're making him out to be we'd be in legit contention for our Division next year and have a multitude of different scenarios going into the draft with FA coming up and plenty of cap space. Instead, based on the coaches and GMs opinions we are left with a QB who is replaceable and worth exploring every avenue to upgrade. 

 

[Breakpoint4510]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It wasn't anonymous. It came from very credible sources.

You on the other hand are both anonymous and a non-established source, so what reason would I have to believe you?

I'm not trying to get you to believe me. I'm trying to get you to think.  You are following a bunch of arm chair general managers who want to go all nuclear on the Panthers because they don't like Teddy Bridgewater.

Who's your source on the Lions thingy.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Breakpoint4510 said:

I'm not trying to get you to believe me. I'm trying to get you to think.  You are following a bunch of arm chair general managers who want to go all nuclear on the Panthers because they don't like Teddy Bridgewater.

Who's your source on the Lions thingy.

Albert Breer was one. Bill Voth and Darin Gantt, who both not only report on the Panthers but are employed by them, have also acknowledged that the pursuit of Stafford happened.

I'd add that unless you're in your mid-fifties or older I've likely been watching the NFL since before you were born. I have no trouble forming my own opinions.

My opinion of Bridgewater is that he's best suited to be a backup.

[BurnNChinn]

35 minutes ago, Breakpoint4510 said:

Give your team more credit than that. The only credible source is from either the Panthers or the Lions, and none of this anonymous crap.  

Teddy just leave dude ur not helping ur self

[Verge]

Stafford to Carolina almost certainly happened if the Rams did not swoop in. 

[KSpan]

23 minutes ago, Breakpoint4510 said:

I'm not trying to get you to believe me. I'm trying to get you to think.  You are following a bunch of arm chair general managers who want to go all nuclear on the Panthers because they don't like Teddy Bridgewater.

Who's your source on the Lions thingy.

Ah yes, claiming the views of people that disagree with you are actually based on their personal dislike of someone/something else and not the objective and verifiable facts and observations they've offered. The last bastion of the deluded, willfully ignorant, and/or shameless internet troll.

Edited March 5, 2021 by KSpan

[PootieNunu]

22 minutes ago, Breakpoint4510 said:

I'm not trying to get you to believe me. I'm trying to get you to think.  You are following a bunch of arm chair general managers who want to go all nuclear on the Panthers because they don't like Teddy Bridgewater.

Who's your source on the Lions thingy.

Its not about liking someone, anyone with a brain and eyes can see that Teddy is not our answer at QB. He had a chance to prove himself worthy and did exactly what he has done in every season as a starter. Now we are looking for a replacement asap and it is only Teddy's fault.

If Teddy is not gone this offseason, there is no way he returns for the third year.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Ah yes, claiming the views of people that disagree with you are actually based on their personal dislike of someone/something else and not the objective and verifiable facts and observations they've offered. The last bastion of the deluded, willfully ignorant, and/or shameless internet troll.

Well, you know me. I tend to just follow along with what everybody else is saying

[Verge]

32 minutes ago, Breakpoint4510 said:

I'm not trying to get you to believe me. I'm trying to get you to think.  You are following a bunch of arm chair general managers who want to go all nuclear on the Panthers because they don't like Teddy Bridgewater.

Who's your source on the Lions thingy.

Holy poo, Teddy Bridgewater on the forum. Wild.

[BurnNChinn]

2 minutes ago, Verge said:

Holy poo, Teddy Bridgewater on the forum. Wild.

Yeah that’s what I’ve been saying, i thought he was Teddy from the start. 

[Breakpoint4510]

11 minutes ago, SteveSmithTD89 said:

Seriously, have you been living under a rock? Nothing I said was false, its all verifiable and well documented. This isn't me speaking out of both sides of my mouth. This isn't a unicorn scenario. 

We offered out 1st, 5th and Teddy for Stafford. We were reviewing his dang medicals before the Rams upped their offer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/nfl/lions/.amp/news/panthers-offer-for-stafford-revealed

Matt Rhule did lay it out for Teddy, here's the article for that too. 

https://www.nfl.com/news/matt-rhule-says-teddy-bridgewater-has-to-have-a-tremendous-offseason

And Teddy won us 4 games and kept us competitive? I greatly disagree. Outside of the 1st ATL game 2 of our 4 wins with Teddy at the helm were some of his worst games with us. 1 TD and 5 FGs against the Chargers squeaking by a rookie QBs first start and then 2 TDs and a pick against the Cards who the defense shut down and held Hopkins to the worst game of his season and held Kyler Murray to 130yards. Hardly the reason we won those games.

 

Hell, by that logic Kyle Allen won us 5 the year before and kept us competitive in several games as well.

From Week 10 on Teddy averaged 266 yards, threw 2 TDs and 4 picks while being sacked 12 times. Assuming that's the entire teams fault excluding Teddy though right? 

I dont hate Teddy. I would love nothing more for him to suddenly become a transcendent QB. The team would be far better for it. I just don't see a QB suddenly making that leap and changing everything about them going into their 7th year. 

I'm done going back and forth on this one man. Like I outlined before, if Teddy was half as good as you're making him out to be we'd be in legit contention for our Division next year and have a multitude of different scenarios going into the draft with FA coming up and plenty of cap space. Instead, based on the coaches and GMs opinions we are left with a QB who is replaceable and worth exploring every avenue to upgrade. 

 

Your source for that trade rumor is as credible as you are. That would be not at all. Again, the Panthers aren't that stupid. 

You just can't help yourself, stepping all over Teddy's qb wins even though he had a rookie head coach, a rookie play caller, an injured running back and no tight end to speak of. See how you run down the teams that your team beat? Now look in the mirror at your defense during that 0-8 stretch and see if you have nightmares of Brees, Brady, Foles, Mahomes , and Matty Ice getting fat on Phil Snow's bend and break defense. Your defense who you choose not to acknowlege was giving up third and twenties like granny going north. They even gave the slowest quarterback in football about eight seconds to run 18 yards untouched by human hands for a go ahead touchdown.

You don't hate Teddy? Could have fooled me. You did go from naming your dog after him to not hating him, so I guess that's something.

If the Panthers tighten up that offensive line, and plug some holes in that defense, you darn right the Panther should be in contention for the division.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Breakpoint4510 said:

Your source for that trade rumor is as credible as you are. That would be not at all. Again, the Panthers aren't that stupid. 

You just can't help yourself, stepping all over Teddy's qb wins even though he had a rookie head coach, a rookie play caller, an injured running back and no tight end to speak of. See how you run down the teams that your team beat? Now look in the mirror at your defense during that 0-8 stretch and see if you have nightmares of Brees, Brady, Foles, Mahomes , and Matty Ice getting fat on Phil Snow's bend and break defense. Your defense who you choose not to acknowlege was giving up third and twenties like granny going north. They even gave the slowest quarterback in football about eight seconds to run 18 yards untouched by human hands for a go ahead touchdown.

You don't hate Teddy? Could have fooled me. You did go from naming your dog after him to not hating him, so I guess that's something.

If the Panthers tighten up that offensive line, and plug some holes in that defense, you darn right the Panther should be in contention for the division.

"Everybody's fault but Teddy's" isn't exactly a credible argument.

I don't hate Bridgewater. Didn't hate Marty Hurney either. General accounts mostly put both of them as being nice people.

Unfortunately, a lot of nice people aren't very good at their jobs.

This post contains two examples of that.