Richard Sherman thinks Mac Jones criticized unfairly

[Moo Daeng]

26 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

... Kurt Warner?  The guy with great arm strength?

Kurt Warner was definitely not known for arm strength. If anything it was for being goodwithout it. 

Edited March 8, 2021 by Moo Daeng

[mav1234]

2 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Kurt Warner was definitely not known for arm strength. If anything it was for being goodwithout it. 

That is absolutely not true. Google the one scouting report that exists for him from college. His one attribute was arm strength lol

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Kurt Warner was definitely not known for arm strength. If anything it was for being good with effective without it. 

Maybe old man AZ Warner.   

Mac Jones arm is more Chad Pennington than Kurt Warner IMO. 

 

[Moo Daeng]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Maybe old man AZ Warner.   

Mac Jones arm is more Chad Pennington than Kurt Warner IMO. 

 

I can only assume many here weren't following the NFL in the decade of 2000 becuase it was commonly said that Warner was great with anticipation and accuracy vs arm strength.

From his own GM

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Keim remembers such a quarterback he once had with the Cardinals. His name was Kurt Warner, whose career also earned him a spot in Canton, Ohio.

“Kurt didn’t have the biggest arm, he didn’t always throw the tightest spiral,” the GM said. “But he had this rare anticipation and that made up for all those things.”

 

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/path-to-the-passer-how-much-does-a-strong-arm-matter/article_8cedce8c-be26-58c9-9c53-6cd8dcf68955.html

Edited March 8, 2021 by Moo Daeng

[frankw]

After a full season of watching what we had behind center last year I just want to see a quarterback capable and willing to move the ball. In that aspect particularly when it counts.

All that matters is if he can help the team. Draft talk is hindered greatly by petty bias revolving around whichever college a prospect played for. This franchise is not at all in a position to be very picky. The uphill battle for regaining competitiveness within the division is one that will take time no matter which route we decide to take at quarterback. Make sure we get the right football player and leave all the other nonsense at the door.

[Catsfan69]

15 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

I can only assume many here weren't following the NFL in the decade of 2000 becuase it was commonly said that Warner was great with anticipation and accuracy vs arm strength.

From his own GM

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/path-to-the-passer-how-much-does-a-strong-arm-matter/article_8cedce8c-be26-58c9-9c53-6cd8dcf68955.html

Am I misremembering all those bombs to Holt and Bruce?

Or all those deep outs?

[panthers55]

3 hours ago, Mage said:

Brees can’t scramble but I don’t think I would call him immobile. His pocket movement has always been incredible.

The same with Jones. They compare actually favorably and some folks think New Orleans may move up if they can't land Wilson.

https://rolltidewire.usatoday.com/2021/03/07/2021-nfl-mock-draft-which-team-makes-a-bold-move-for-mac-jones/

 

[Khyber53]

53 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I wasn't referring to just this season.  Alabama usually has more talent than any team they face, regardless of the season. Its always more difficult to assess their ability to play in the NFL.  Of course, because they get so much talent, they get more players in the NFL.  Which is why I would never want to be an NFL scout.  

I understand the quandary for sure!

[mav1234]

16 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

I can only assume many here weren't following the NFL in the decade of 2000 becuase it was commonly said that Warner was great with anticipation and accuracy vs arm strength.

From his own GM

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/path-to-the-passer-how-much-does-a-strong-arm-matter/article_8cedce8c-be26-58c9-9c53-6cd8dcf68955.html

Warner didn't take a snap until 27 basically. As a Ram he had a great arm, and the lone scouting report of him gave him top grades for his arm strength. Whether or not his arm strength was elite it was above average.

 

[pantherclaw]

3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's not just mobility though. It's also arm strength. If he had a cannon of an arm he'd still be considered a top prospect even with serious mobility concerns.

Brees has never had a cannon of an arm. Neither has Brady. Neither did Montana. 

[CRA]

7 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Warner didn't take a snap until 27 basically. As a Ram he had a great arm, and the lone scouting report of him gave him top grades for his arm strength. Whether or not his arm strength was elite it was above average.

 

38 year old Super Bowl/Cardinal Warner might not of had a cannon.  

Greatest Show on Turf Warner most definitely did not have a Chad Pennington arm. 

[Catsfan69]

2 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Brees has never had a cannon of an arm. Neither has Brady. Neither did Montana. 

But again bigger arms than jones.

 

Every boundary out he throws will be a pick 6.

[Waldo]

Warner's scouting report. Yeah his arm was his positive. Bad bad comparison.

I like the Pennington comparison for Jones. He is like the QB version of Little for me, same feels when I watch his film which is underwhelmed. Produced in college and projects poorly to the NFL. 

[SCO96]

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

I don't understand why people try to compare Brady in college to any modern prospect.  There's no point.  Part of Brady's story, as we all know, is the pact he made with the devil after the NFL draft to go from a seemingly mediocre college QB to a God among NFL players.

 "You weren't suppose to tell anyone about that!"