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Go on record. Who still wants Watson?


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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'll tell you the same thing I've told others.

If you know someone who's actually been a victim of something like this, you might understand how difficult it is for women, even in cases where the person in question isn't rich or famous.

Attitudes like "well why didn't you do this like I think you should have" are one of the biggest factors that help make it tougher for victims to get justice.

I do know someone very personally who was sexually abused. She went right to her loved ones, and they took it straight to the police. So don’t assume I have no place to speak. 
 

you are assuming the allegations are truthful. I prefer assume that they may or may not be. 
 

You are also speaking logically from the standpoint of a singular victims response mechanism. I think it’s unwise to ignore the greater pattern. 
 

I have not read of a single incident where Watson had threatened one of his alleged victims. You may be more versed in each allegation, so I invite you to correct me if there were threats involved, which would play a huge factor. The presence of a threat or the absence of one would not be the end all to explain the reason most stayed silent, but that would certainly go a long way to explain it. 
 

Is it fair to say it’s possible that maybe some sexual contact did happen, and when one accusation came out, others saw that they had an opportunity to jump on the money train? Is it possible each allegation was coached by the one constant in all of them- the sleazy attorney?

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2 hours ago, Asurfaholic said:

I do know someone very personally who was sexually abused. She went right to her loved ones, and they took it straight to the police. So don’t assume I have no place to speak. 

you are assuming the allegations are truthful. I prefer assume that they may or may not be. 
 

You are also speaking logically from the standpoint of a singular victims response mechanism. I think it’s unwise to ignore the greater pattern. 
 

I have not read of a single incident where Watson had threatened one of his alleged victims. You may be more versed in each allegation, so I invite you to correct me if there were threats involved, which would play a huge factor. The presence of a threat or the absence of one would not be the end all to explain the reason most stayed silent, but that would certainly go a long way to explain it. 
 

Is it fair to say it’s possible that maybe some sexual contact did happen, and when one accusation came out, others saw that they had an opportunity to jump on the money train? Is it possible each allegation was coached by the one constant in all of them- the sleazy attorney?

You know someone. Cool.

Many of us on here know several who, for varying reasons, did not go to police. In fact, the majority of women don't. 

As to the accusers, many of them also reported the stories to friends and loved ones. That includes the SI accuser whose story was checked out by the reporter who wrote it.

All have said they feared reprisal, and some reported that Watson made veiled (or not so veiled) threats. If you aren't aware of this, like you weren't aware of other details, I'm guessing you haven't read the cases.

You're apparently also unaware that not all of the cases are represented by the same lawyer. The SI accuser has different counsel.

Bottom Line: The whole "bunch of b-tches looking for money" rationalization is pretty embarrassing, and again a big reason why a lot of women don't come forward in cases like this.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

You know someone. Cool.

Many of us on here know several who, for varying reasons, did not go to police. In fact, the majority of women don't. 

As to the accusers, many of them also reported the stories to friends and loved ones. That includes the SI accuser whose story was checked out by the reporter who wrote it.

All have said they feared reprisal, and some reported that Watson made veiled (or not so veiled) threats. If you aren't aware of this, like you weren't aware of other details, I'm guessing you haven't read the cases.

You're apparently also unaware that not all of the cases are represented by the same lawyer. The SI accuser has different counsel.

Bottom Line: The whole "bunch of b-tches looking for money" rationalization is pretty embarrassing, and again a big reason why a lot of women don't come forward in cases like this.

Is it possible DW sexually harassed and or assaulted all the women? Yes

Is it possible DW sexually harassed and or assaulted some of the women? Yes

Is it possible all the women are lying and or exaggerating the story looking for a payday? Yes

Right now, no one knows for sure what actually happened except DW and the women making these claims. 

 

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2 hours ago, Agent Blue said:

Is it possible DW sexually harassed and or assaulted all the women? Yes

Is it possible DW sexually harassed and or assaulted some of the women? Yes

Is it possible all the women are lying and or exaggerating the story looking for a payday? Yes

Right now, no one knows for sure what actually happened except DW and the women making these claims. 

 

This is exactly my point. I’m just pointing things that seem strange to me. 
 

For all my latest focus on the lack of an actual police report, I also find it odd that Watson has the ire of so many women. Patterns of behavior are telling. 1 accuser with no substance for evidence is one thing. 30 is entirely another. Watson could be very good at grooming the possible victims to accept his behavior.

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1 hour ago, Doc Holiday said:

Really... that’s sad

So #believe women without question?

 

ever been on the lying end of a scorned woman before? Thank god my experience with that I was able to prove the lie because douche nozzles like some folks here just assume the woman is always right. Forget innocent until proven guilty. It’s mob rule and guilty until proven innocent. 
 

These women are bypassing the justice system and going straight for the money. That is very telling to me. 

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7 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

So #believe women without question?

 

ever been on the lying end of a scorned woman before? Thank god my experience with that I was able to prove the lie because douche nozzles like some folks here just assume the woman is always right. Forget innocent until proven guilty. It’s mob rule and guilty until proven innocent. 
 

These women are bypassing the justice system and going straight for the money. That is very telling to me. 

You've been accused by 20 women of sexual misconduct?

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What has likely happened here is that Watson has engaged in some sort of sexual act with many, many many of these massage therapists from IG.  If 20+ women are coming out with pretty much the same story, imagine how many times he was successful?  This sounds like it was an almost everyday thing for him....so I imagine his advances were not turned down many more times than they were rebuffed.

All of this makes it seem like he just went around propositioning these women out of  the blue, but it seems like in Watsons mind, some sort of sexual release was almost expected - probably from his past dealings with these kinds of women.  Like I said a few pages back, there exists a gigantic, worldwide prostitution network on social media platforms, and IG especially.  Now its obvious that most of these women coming forward are probably NOT hookers, but that does not mean there are not a poo ton of hookers on IG posing as "massage therapists".  

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17 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You've been accused by 20 women of sexual misconduct?

No. But each accusation needs to examined carefully because on the other end of every accusation is a person who deserves due process. 

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26 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

So #believe women without question?

 

ever been on the lying end of a scorned woman before? Thank god my experience with that I was able to prove the lie because douche nozzles like some folks here just assume the woman is always right. Forget innocent until proven guilty. It’s mob rule and guilty until proven innocent. 
 

These women are bypassing the justice system and going straight for the money. That is very telling to me. 

I’m not saying believe women without question, I work in law enforcement and know better than that. I also know you don’t normally get 20+ complaints when you’re acting like a saint.

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Just now, Doc Holiday said:

I’m not saying believe women without question, I work in law enforcement and know better than that. I also know you don’t normally get 20+ complaints when you’re acting like a saint.

I agree - the entire thing reeks of habitual sexual contact during massages. But I don’t really see how any of it sticks when they aren’t willing to turn their evidence (sworn affidavits for starters) over to police- especially in the “forced oral sex” cases which I believe lands a rape charge. 

 

All 20 can’t be wrong, but if he was getting regular massages and one story comes out of a civil suit against Watson, it doesn’t seem too far fetched to imagine some women who regretted their own behavior during their own encounter to pile on and say they too were “traumatized.” 
 

In this game of numbers, of the 20 accusations of forced sexual contact, not a single one went to police. Not weird at all in your professional experience?

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1 hour ago, Asurfaholic said:

I agree - the entire thing reeks of habitual sexual contact during massages. But I don’t really see how any of it sticks when they aren’t willing to turn their evidence (sworn affidavits for starters) over to police- especially in the “forced oral sex” cases which I believe lands a rape charge. 

 

All 20 can’t be wrong, but if he was getting regular massages and one story comes out of a civil suit against Watson, it doesn’t seem too far fetched to imagine some women who regretted their own behavior during their own encounter to pile on and say they too were “traumatized.” 
 

In this game of numbers, of the 20 accusations of forced sexual contact, not a single one went to police. Not weird at all in your professional experience?

I don't think its weird for 20 people to not contact the police due to the mild sexual misconduct. Heck if you look in past scenarios with Bill Cosby (60+ victims), Larry Nassar (200+), Jerry Sandusky (10+), Harvey Weinstein (80+) this is actually the norm. Think about this if a dude was snatched up off the street and raped by a bunch of dudes how many would actually speak up out of 100. I guarantee you that number would be fairly small. 

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