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Sam Darnold's "Style of Ball"

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4 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

My point was there were no FA/trade targets left. Relying on the draft with pick 8 knowing 1-3 are QBs is a very risky game. They secured Darnold vs playing that game IMO. The fact that we heated up the conversation AFTER the Niners moved up to 3 kind of gives it away for me. The good news is Fields and Mac were available and we were confident enough in Darnold to address another need instead.

I don’t disagree, but I think it’s a little more nuanced than that. I think they are willing to see if Darnold works out rather than draft their 4th choice QB with an incomplete O Line, and a defense that can’t get off the field on third downs. That’s not doing a rookie QB any favors.

It’s pretty simple to me. Hey, let’s see if Darnold can turn it around, otherwise bring in a proven vet or draft a rookie into an infinitely better situation next year.

This obviously bothers Justin Fields fans.

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1 minute ago, Khaki Lackey said:

I don’t disagree, but I think it’s a little more nuanced than that. I think they are willing to see if Darnold works out rather than draft their 4th choice QB with an incomplete O Line, and a defense that can’t get off the field on third downs. That’s not doing a rookie QB any favors.

It’s pretty simple to me. Hey, let’s see if Darnold can turn it around, otherwise bring in a proven vet or draft a rookie into an infinitely better situation next year.

This obviously bothers Justin Fields fans.

Yeah very good point, they went with what they had while addressing another major need (cb), and passed on the 4th QB in this draft. I mean just as bad as Teddy not having a 4th quarter win in his many opportunities, getting off the field on 3rd down might have been our biggest issue. Horn helps fix that issue more than any other player they could have drafted. So they passed on the 4th QB to address our arguably biggest need. Rhule has already said that Darnold let’s us go BPA in the draft and that’s what they did.

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Yeah very good point, they went with what they had while addressing another major need (cb), and passed on the 4th QB in this draft. I mean just as bad as Teddy not having a 4th quarter win in his many opportunities, getting off the field on 3rd down might have been our biggest issue. Horn helps fix that issue more than any other player they could have drafted. So they passed on the 4th QB to address our arguably biggest need. Rhule has already said that Darnold let’s us go BPA in the draft and that’s what they did.

Exactly. The “acquire a QB at all cost” crowd thinks the coaching staff and front office  thinks 100% that Darnold is the guy, just like they thought Teddy would be.

I think the staff knows/knew damn well that that Teddy/Darnold may or may not be the guy. They are just waiting for the right time to bet on a more sure thing.

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46 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's gospel when it supports the narrative you want to believe though.

Yeah, at the end of the day none of us know what’s going on behind the scenes no matter what the journalists feed us. Unless one of these posters are really Rhule, Fitts, or Tepper all we can really do is speculate based on what’s “leaked” to us.

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1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah, at the end of the day none of us know what’s going on behind the scenes no matter what the journalists feed us. Unless one of these posters are really Rhule, Fitts, or Tepper all we can really do is speculate based on what’s “leaked” to us.

Exactly. Unless you have the preponderance of all media sources agreeing on the information, it may or may not be accurate. 

Cherry picking news/information is the sickness of modern America. I see it has settled into the sports world now 

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13 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Exactly. Unless you have the preponderance of all media sources agreeing on the information, it may or may not be accurate. 

Cherry picking news/information is the sickness of modern America. I see it has settled into the sports world now 

Yeah, except that's not what's happening here.

We're not talking about sources vs other sources here. We're talking about actual sources vs fan on the internet speculation.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, except that's not what's happening here.

We're not talking about sources vs other sources here. We're talking about actual sources vs fan on the internet speculation.

I get you are attached to your sources and believe them to be gospel, regardless of what anyone says. We'll just have to agree to disagree on their veracity. 

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6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, except that's not what's happening here.

We're not talking about sources vs other sources here. We're talking about actual sources vs fan on the internet speculation.

Plenty of “sources” claimed we were interested in drafting a QB with the 8th pick, including our very own GM. That was shown to be inaccurate from our “behind the scenes” video. Also plenty of stories will get leaked or released to us fans to push team narratives. These teams have a professional team of PR people that know what they are doing. Claiming one is exactly how it happened and dismissing others seems a bit naive, that’s all...

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16 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Plenty of “sources” claimed we were interested in drafting a QB with the 8th pick, including our very own GM. That was shown to be inaccurate from our “behind the scenes” video. Also plenty of stories will get leaked or released to us fans to push team narratives. These teams have a professional team of PR people that know what they are doing. Claiming one is exactly how it happened and dismissing others seems a bit naive, that’s all...

Hence the word "smokescreen".

Breer isn't a team person and he got his info on the Darnold story from the Jets as well as the Panthers.

You want to disbelieve the story? Feel free, but suggesting that a bunch of internet fans with no inside access at all have a better handle on what really happened is just plain dumb.

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