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I think I'm ready for PJ

Zod

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On 10/17/2021 at 2:03 PM, Zod said:

I've given Sam the benefit of the doubt but he is now as bad as Clausen was.

 

I think I'm ready to see if PJ can at least make this offense look semi competent.

 

Saying you're ready for PJ is the same as saying you're ready for a 3-14 season. Suck it up!

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8 hours ago, glenwo2 said:

When this thread started, it was about PJ and Zod apparently making a Troll Thread (KUDOS for fooling most of us, buddy).

Now all of a sudden, Cam's name started being tossed around....WHY?

 

Because if we’re going to lose we might as well lose with our guy. And if Cam isn’t your guy despite raising this franchise out of the gutter and making it relevant, then you have to look yourself in the mirror and ask why that is. 

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20 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

The line is really bad but it gives enough time to make good decisions. What we need is a QB who is capable of running the offense and making those good decisions.

Darnold is obviously not that guy but PJ wasn't great against the Lions. He was gunning balls into tight spots, which he sometimes got away with and sometimes didn't. Overall, I didn't see that he was much of a different gunslinger than Darnold.

 

 being able to completing passes into tight windows is a plus.

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9 minutes ago, Tinamedina said:

 

 being able to completing passes into tight windows is a plus.

It's a plus, as long as they aren't ill advised decisions. Remember this is a guy that has 1 TD and 5 INT's in his career. That doesn't indicate he is going to be a substantial upgrade from Darnold. Quite the opposite.

Even though this is Darnold's worst season of his career, his TO/possession rate is 3.6% in 2021. PJ Walker's career rate is 8.9%. That doesn't solve the problem we are having.

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

It's a plus, as long as they aren't ill advised decisions. Remember this is a guy that has 1 TD and 5 INT's in his career. That doesn't indicate he is going to be a substantial upgrade from Darnold. Quite the opposite.

Even though this is Darnold's worst season of his career, his TO/possession rate is 3.6% in 2021. PJ Walker's career rate is 8.9%. That doesn't solve the problem we are having.

 pj walker hasn't played long enough to determine anything, it won't be until sam gets hurt or something that anybody will really know. 

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15 minutes ago, Tinamedina said:

 pj walker hasn't played long enough to determine anything, it won't be until sam gets hurt or something that anybody will really know. 

Yeah, I mean perhaps that is true but he just isn't a guy I thought looked like he had much based on the Detroit game. He did okay versus a bad opponent and that was about it. He predominantly looked like an erratic gunslinger, which is what we have right now.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, I mean perhaps that is true but he just isn't a guy I thought looked like he had much based on the Detroit game. He did okay versus a bad opponent and that was about it. He predominantly looked like an erratic gunslinger, which is what we have right now.

But Darnold at least has talent and guts. 

You can work with talent and guts.

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1 hour ago, Catsfan69 said:

But Darnold at least has talent and guts. 

You can work with talent and guts.

Yeah but he also is just a bad player. Erving has talent, arguably but he also sucks. Talent can only get you so far in the NFL.

1 hour ago, Catsfan69 said:

@kungfoodude did you see how much time Cousins and Teddy had last night.

Darnold would kill behind that.

Well, the stats don't bear that out. Darnold has performed worse in a clean pocket in his NFL career than when pressured. It defies logic but it is what he has done.

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1 hour ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

i saw enough of PJ to know he is not the answer..

i haven't made my final decision on Sam yet.. keep rolling with him

it took 1 start to figure out PJ...

but 44 in with Sam and you don't know?  I mean, Sam has been pretty consistent as a QB.   USC, NY and now here. 

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