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4 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

isn't that what you rebuild for... to build a contender? 

Yes, but you don’t go from horrible and rebuild mode to magically being contenders.  

You build into being a good football team inbetween that.   And this staff isn’t on pace to even start addressing the OL/QB until year 3.   Which again, takes time.  It’s a poor schedule/plan. 

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3 minutes ago, Squid Game said:

The day David Tepper stepped foot inside BOA was the first day of “rebuild”. His record, 20-34 and no playoff appearance. 

The rebuild started when he hired Rhule. Everything before that was an assessment of what we had.

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There has been heated disagreement here but few are telling others to go and root for another team. Anyone who is here through this slop probably isn't going to bail now. 99% of us seek the same thing only a tiny percentage actually want to see failure. I totally understand people who take the optimist approach but barring a miracle we won't see back to back winning seasons until minimum 2024 or 2025 so the critics are very much justified. Some people are just tired and it is absolutely relatable.

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Just now, CRA said:

Yes, but you don’t go from horrible and rebuild mode to magically being contenders.  

You build into being a good football team inbetween that.   And this staff isn’t on pace to even start addressing the OL/QB until year 3.   Which again, takes time.  It’s a poor schedule/plan. 

I agree. Im not here to argue if they are doing a rebuild correctly. Im just here stating that we are in a complete rebuild. Maybe our rebuild is taking longer than it should. But I think that is just because of how they prioritized things. They put the defense first and addressed other holes with "glue and tape" players. Some may stick and some may not. I see them making fixes to OL in year 3 but developing OL takes more than just bringing them in. So that could take another year maybe 2. So yes you can definitely say that even if a 3 year rebuild is how long it is supposed to take, we are behind. We all know how hard it is to hit on a franchise QB. We were more or less praying Darnold was the guy... not expecting. 

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2 minutes ago, frankw said:

There has been heated disagreement here but few are telling others to go and root for another team. Anyone who is here through this slop probably isn't going to bail now. 99% of us seek the same thing only a tiny percentage actually want to see failure. I totally understand people who take the optimist approach but barring a miracle we won't see back to back winning seasons until minimum 2024 or 2025 so the critics are very much justified. Some people are just tired and it is absolutely relatable.

That’s tough. Three to four more years before we will start to win? Panthers fans better start checking David Tepper’s record as the owner of this team. It’s time to put him in on notice. 

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The last 3 games have been disappointing, but not shocking...at least not to me.

We knew our issues coming into the season...massive O Line problems....mix that with a jumpy INT prone QB, and what we are seeing isn't completely crazy.

Since Fitt got here, I have had reason to look up though...we have not committed any MASSIVE mistakes since his arrival...at least FO decisions...that's progress for the Carolina Panthers.

 

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4 minutes ago, Squid Game said:

Why would some of you guys pay to support losing teams? This is Tepper’s 4th season as the owner of this team. We haven’t won anything under that man. 

If you don't want to pay to support the Panthers then you quite literally do not have to. It is your choice. 

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