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This Sunday - a likely reality for us Cam stans

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8 minutes ago, pantherj said:

We're not winning anymore games regardless. I would think Rhule would learn toward Sam due to Newton not playing well and Rhule costing us our 2nd and 4th. Someone's job is on the line if Sam doesn't pan out, so I think we'll see Sam before the end of the season.

What do you mean IF Sam doesn’t pan out? That was already answered.  

But I suspect that is exactly what Rhule is hoping for.  Rhule cooked up more poo and hopes we forgot how bad the prior poo was.   Hopes to start Sam at the end.  Maybe get a turnover free check down game and a close loss and try the injury angle. 

I’m cool losing out with Cam.   I don’t need to see Sam.  No desire to be forced to root for that. 

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What do you mean IF Sam doesn’t pan out? That was already answered.  

But I suspect that is exactly what Rhule is hoping for.  Rhule cooked up more poo and hopes we forgot how bad the prior poo was.   Hopes to start Sam at the end.  Maybe get a turnover free check down game and a close loss and try the injury angle. 

I'm going by what is somewhat realistic as far as Rhule is concerned. I'm not giving a scenario where I run the Panthers. I know Sam's ceiling is rock bottom tier QB and we'll never go anywhere with that. Rhule wants Sam to have his shot and thinks it's more about time and experience imo.

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24 minutes ago, pantherj said:

I'm going by what is somewhat realistic as far as Rhule is concerned. I'm not giving a scenario where I run the Panthers. I know Sam's ceiling is rock bottom tier QB and we'll never go anywhere with that. Rhule wants Sam to have his shot and thinks it's more about time and experience imo.

Sam has been a starting QB for 4 straight seasons.   Rhule is just an clown.  Sam sucks.  NY didn’t make Sam a bad QB.  They drafted a bad QB who plays to this day like he did at USC

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I like Cam. He's fun, makes the game exciting. I've been happy he's been a Panther.

On the other hand, I am also 100% behind whomever our QB is at time the game is played.

PJ? 100%.  Sam? 100%.

I may not like the final outcome of the games... but I support whomever we put out on the field, cause I cheer for the Panthers.

That being said...

Cam losing his last 12 Panthers starts, dating back to 2018, is not a good look.  

No matter how much we like what Cam does to energize the fanbase (both in-game and off-field) -- those are 12 loses that sit, in some part, on his shoulders.   Even if you account for injuries, defensive headshots, bad coaching, dropped balls, tipped passes, fumbles, etc.... Cam as still partially responsible for those loses.  

I don't know how we can send Cam out on top with anything recently redeeming to add to his legacy of his first years with us.

Which sucks. 

But it is what it is.  Still sucky.

 

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hate to tell you but from what I'm reading, sounds like Rhule didn't necessarily commit to starting Newton this Sunday.

 

Hey, but we all know not to listen to anything he says anyway.  Where was PJ yesterday?  He seemed pretty intent on getting him in the game before we actually got to the game and he let Cam get murdered...

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

If Tepper doesn't already see how bad Rhule is, I'm worried that he won't.

I just remember Tepper talking about "building something", us not winning right away, and fans should expect the issues of growing pains. I too am hoping he sincerely doesn't feel like this is part of the process of building a contender and Rhule should stay. But then I remember this is the guy who tried like hell to get Mike Tomlin fired in Pittsburgh and this man has never had a losing season. 

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

That’s why I said hopefully Rhule doesn’t rob us of that Sunday.  Because I fully believe he is going to start scapegoating harder and harder.  And it won’t be his roommate playcaller.  It will be players. 
 

I fully believe Rhule will make Cam looks worse in the end than if he never played this season.  Hopefully he holds off on PJ and Sam a week.  But I feel he ends up going to both of them as starters at the end of this season 

more likely to get that rust knocked off him rather than shaken off

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48 minutes ago, PanthersATL said:

No matter how much we like what Cam does to energize the fanbase (both in-game and off-field) -- those are 12 loses that sit, in some part, on his shoulders.   Even if you account for injuries, defensive headshots, bad coaching, dropped balls, tipped passes, fumbles, etc.... Cam as still partially responsible for those loses.

I'm saying they should just give him the ball and let him drive to the hoop in an isolation play....wait this isn't basketball? There are 11 damn people on the field. You people with this goofy ass narrative ALWAYS omit the details in an effort to make it sound like an intelligent argument, while squeezing in your bs agenda.

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