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All is quiet on the OC front

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39 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

The thing is Rhule went on WFNZ (twice in same day no less) with absolutely no preset conditions or list of questions --- that's the opposite of "spin".

Rhule isn't a spin doctor, he's the HC. It's the spin doctors' job to toe the party line. They're supposed to put him in the best light as possible, including basically ignoring all the negativity cast about him by fans, analysts and even ex-players. 

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56 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Rhule isn't a spin doctor, he's the HC. It's the spin doctors' job to toe the party line. They're supposed to put him in the best light as possible, including basically ignoring all the negativity cast about him by fans, analysts and even ex-players. 

How does this phenomena manifest itself in real life?

Rhule clearly hasn't been insulated at all, in fact, he spoke at some length about how all the negativity affects his family, etc...

 

 

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1 hour ago, davos said:

A new potential HC name I think we could miss out on this year is Mike McDaniel in SF.  Not just saying it coming off yesterday's win either.  The way that team hasn't needed to fully commit to a RB or QB, or heck really anyone outside Dabo and Kittle has been impressive.  And even when you don't think they'll make noise, they somehow stick in contention, grind it out, and have rather stellar games.  Great defense but an offense that just figures out a way to win.  Using guys like Elijah Mitchell, Kyle J, Jauan Jennings, all at different moments this year, they just seem to always pack a punch without even a good QB at the helm.  From a great coaching tree, 38, awesome adaptive scheming.  That's a guy I'd like to see just brought in. 

Pipe Dreaming for an OC who we could promote to HC: Shane Day, Passing Game Coord & QB coach in LAC.  

Though these are examples of two fine candidates who will stay far away from Rhule.

We'll probably get some chump like Doug Marrone, Anthony Lynn, etc. (If we're even lucky)

Or if no one hires Jim Caldwell, he may be the ticket for Rhule.  He's apparently over the health issues and his could be a top OC candidate if no one hires him as HC.  He's landed some interviews. 

 

 

I would love Mcdaniel.

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And has a very sensible natural progression going on career wise.

Starting as an intern in Denver for Mike Shanahan back in the day. Worked his way up from the assistant roles into a WR coach. Followed Kubiak to HOU, t Mike & Kyle back in WAS. Now in the playcalling world. He’s a dude I am very high on. 

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2 hours ago, davos said:

A new potential HC name I think we could miss out on this year is Mike McDaniel in SF.  Not just saying it coming off yesterday's win either.  The way that team hasn't needed to fully commit to a RB or QB, or heck really anyone outside Dabo and Kittle has been impressive.  And even when you don't think they'll make noise, they somehow stick in contention, grind it out, and have rather stellar games.  Great defense but an offense that just figures out a way to win.  Using guys like Elijah Mitchell, Kyle J, Jauan Jennings, all at different moments this year, they just seem to always pack a punch without even a good QB at the helm.  From a great coaching tree, 38, awesome adaptive scheming.  That's a guy I'd like to see just brought in. 

Pipe Dreaming for an OC who we could promote to HC: Shane Day, Passing Game Coord & QB coach in LAC.  

Though these are examples of two fine candidates who will stay far away from Rhule.

We'll probably get some chump like Doug Marrone, Anthony Lynn, etc. (If we're even lucky)

Or if no one hires Jim Caldwell, he may be the ticket for Rhule.  He's apparently over the health issues and his could be a top OC candidate if no one hires him as HC.  He's landed some interviews. 

 

 

 

I think the SF O is largely Kyle Shanahan 

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

 

I think the SF O is largely Kyle Shanahan 

Being a bit tied to certain league circles—Word is they have a trust developed more than he had with LaFleur.  They’re also part of the new gen coaching tree stemming from the Shanahan/Kubiak disciples (eventually McVay’s blossomed tree) that I find to have many studs.

DEN, WAS and TEN being the origin with a lot of these guys that are all super tight partying in Nashville & Chicago on off weeks. Being McVay, Arthur Smith, LaFleurs, Shan, McD, there’s a whole clique of a younger NFL inner circle these days. 
 

They also have the affection of the ownership/old GM boys club. Old school has ESPN in their pockets, new is more NFLN and podcasts but that group of dudes are tied with the “search committees” and the next few may not be spoken of much, but will eventually when they’re hired out of nowhere instead of Bienemy, Daboll, etc.

Although Polian may be leaning to Daboll For the Bears and that’s a clear example of the old v new guard divide.

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