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Coach Hiring Due Diligence


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“The Athletic” posted a piece this morning about the diligence the Vikings took in the hiring process of O’Connell over Harbaugh.


O’Connell “blew them away,” according to a source. He had studied the team’s roster from the previous season. He came prepared with ideas on how to improve the team and was able to offer a nuanced review of quarterback Kirk Cousins, whom he coached for one season in Washington.”

It frustrates me to think that we basically had our top brass show up on Rhule’s front porch begging him to take the job. Rhule knew nothing of our roster, had extremely limited experience  coaching in the pros, and was handed the job because he was the hot commodity. Now we see he was over his head and I put the blame solely on our lame duck past GM and our billionaire know-it-all owner. 

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8 minutes ago, Towelboy said:

“The Athletic” posted a piece this morning about the diligence the Vikings took in the hiring process of O’Connell over Harbaugh.


O’Connell “blew them away,” according to a source. He had studied the team’s roster from the previous season. He came prepared with ideas on how to improve the team and was able to offer a nuanced review of quarterback Kirk Cousins, whom he coached for one season in Washington.”

It frustrates me to think that we basically had our top brass show up on Rhule’s front porch begging him to take the job. Rhule knew nothing of our roster, had extremely limited experience  coaching in the pros, and was handed the job because he was the hot commodity. Now we see he was over his head and I put the blame solely on our lame duck past GM and our billionaire know-it-all owner. 

Here we go again. 

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not all of us...

It always depends on what 'experts' you listen follow. It's a universal issue.

Hell people here were proping up Hurney as 2.0 and didn't see the irony or wrongness lol. Well liked around the league lol.

 

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1 minute ago, Waldo said:

It always depends on what 'experts' you listen follow. It's a universal issue.

Hell people here were proping up Hurney as 2.0 and didn't see the irony or wrongness lol. Well liked around the league lol.

 

The biggest things that bothered me at the time were One, he was a college coach; Two, he was picked by Marty Hurney and; Three, they didn't finish the interview process with the other candidates.

It got worse when the story of his interview came out. Couldn't shake the image of a gullible person being goaded into something by a fast talking salesman.

Like always though, I tried to talk myself into signing on.

I did like how he spoke. He's great at that. And for a while there it looked like he'd been the right choice.

But now... 😕

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24 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The biggest things that bothered me at the time were One, he was a college coach; Two, he was picked by Marty Hurney and; Three, they didn't finish the interview process with the other candidates.

It got worse when the story of his interview came out. Couldn't shake the image of a gullible person being goaded into something by a fast talking salesman.

Like always though, I tried to talk myself into signing on.

I did like how he spoke. He's great at that. And for a while there it looked like he'd been the right choice.

But now... 😕

I'm with you except him speaking, that was a huge red flag to me. I don't take that angle very well. It grated me instantly. Felt like he was talking to us fans like we were popwarner players. There was some stuff in there about his style and philosophy but that all turned out to be BS in the end.

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24 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

yeah everyone is making that claim now. 

There were definitely people who had reservations at the time.

Hell, the news of his hiring came out of nowhere. A lot of us were still processing that it had even happened before there was time to really think about it.

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