Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Draft day scenario - Could trading Burns be an option?


SmokinwithWilly
 Share

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Trading good young players is rarely a good idea.

Rarely a good idea but we also can't keep and pay everyone. This move requires thinking a bit further down the road, managing cap space, trying to build a contender and I don't really think Rhule is capable of more than deciding what to do when asked "Would you like fries with that?"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This places obsession with trading young talent for unknown draft prospects is weird.

Pass rushers are a premium. I get people want to reset basically everything but we could have cut ties with a number of players in 2011 offseason but we didn’t and they contributed to the 2013 playoff year. It’s ok to keep talent and it’s ok to pay said talent when the time is due.

  • Pie 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Burns has that one elite trait of rushing the passer. Having him on Pitt or NE, he could reach15 sacks, but I doubt Bill would want him given his weakness at setting edge and running D.

Id could be talked into a mid-first and another pick or two in the later rounds. Burns has had 3 years to add weight and failed. Seems a better fit for a true 3-4 team, he ok in coverage. Just if you stop his speeding wide move to the QB, hes out of the play. Im not big on handing him one of those near 20 per deals, so it maybe time to get that haul. 

 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Rarely a good idea but we also can't keep and pay everyone. This move requires thinking a bit further down the road, managing cap space, trying to build a contender and I don't really think Rhule is capable of more than deciding what to do when asked "Would you like fries with that?"

All we gotta do is stop paying terrible QBs and OL then we could actually keep all of our good young talent. It's not like we have a ton of those guys.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Are we keeping reddick for some reason in this scenario?

It wasn't really relevant for me for my thought process. Since Reddick is a FA we have no leverage with him other than his current contract offer. Burns however has trade value if we are trying to rebuild. We don't need an edge rusher as a high priority, but if we could draft a young elite graded one and possibly address a couple of other issues with our line. It's a risk obviously, but in 2 years we could lose Burns to FA anyway if we don't tag him. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

All we gotta do is stop paying terrible QBs and OL then we could actually keep all of our good young talent. It's not like we have a ton of those guys.

I know. I'm just trying to be creative and positive in an otherwise depressing offseason. Can't really criticize Rhule for doing nothing if I don't offer at least an objective proposition.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Burns is a quality player that could be elite when it’s all said and done. But he does leave plenty of sacks out on the field and gap discipline against the run is another area of his game that needs improvement.

Having said that,I am in favor of trading him for draft picks to keep from paying him the big salary he will eventually command, if creative deals can be worked out.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Nothing will change with the qb situation until Tepper is convinced Young is not viable. Until that point, it will be Young. During that time, any shortcomings of Young will be because he does not have the necessary supporting cast, and/or coaches are failing him with faulty schemes and defective gameplans.  So, until Tepper is out, Young is in.
    • Young is the kind of QB who will go as far as the team drags him 90% of the time. And once in a long while he'll explode and light the opposing team up. That is not anywhere near where we need to be as a team. What' worse is that we've won way too many games this season due to an extremely easy schedule. So we can't select a top QB in the draft, and a free agent QB is usually not the answer.  The Panthers fell victim to a long stretch of bad QBs coming out of college. Even if we had made different moves and selected any number of different QBs coming out, we still would have ended up with a bust most likely. Bryce is a bust. Tua is a bust. Zach Wilson? Yikes. Trey Lance. Justin Fields. Mac Jones. Kenny Picket. CJ Stroud. My point is that a lot of teams were devastated by this stretch of bad QBs coming out of college, but we were dumb enough to trade the farm for one of them.  The smart move? Tale the 2 first round picks from the Rams for Burns, and keep CMC. Sit tight. Whatever QB falls in your lap in the draft, take him. Then use the other two first round picks to build up the o-line on the cheap. This isn't Morning GMing. I said take the Rams deal at the time. We have not had a good GM ever in franchise history.  No more trading up for QBs. Clearly is a total guessing game. Stay put. Trade vets for draft picks and start the rebuilding process with a new GM and new coaches. Cut Bryce and bring him back on a vet min deal. Then cut him again for being trash. He's done here if I had any say.   
    • He hasn't been the same since the head injury last year. I don't know if there are some lasting physical effects, or it's just mental. I hope he can get back to form, but I'm highly skeptical.
×
×
  • Create New...