Draft day scenario - Could trading Burns be an option?

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Trading good young players is rarely a good idea.

Rarely a good idea but we also can't keep and pay everyone. This move requires thinking a bit further down the road, managing cap space, trying to build a contender and I don't really think Rhule is capable of more than deciding what to do when asked "Would you like fries with that?"

[Panthercougar68]

This places obsession with trading young talent for unknown draft prospects is weird.

Pass rushers are a premium. I get people want to reset basically everything but we could have cut ties with a number of players in 2011 offseason but we didn’t and they contributed to the 2013 playoff year. It’s ok to keep talent and it’s ok to pay said talent when the time is due.

[Basbear]

Burns has that one elite trait of rushing the passer. Having him on Pitt or NE, he could reach15 sacks, but I doubt Bill would want him given his weakness at setting edge and running D.

Id could be talked into a mid-first and another pick or two in the later rounds. Burns has had 3 years to add weight and failed. Seems a better fit for a true 3-4 team, he ok in coverage. Just if you stop his speeding wide move to the QB, hes out of the play. Im not big on handing him one of those near 20 per deals, so it maybe time to get that haul. 

 

[Panthercougar68]

And I’ll add say you do trade Burns it’s gonna have to be a package not just one pick.

This fanbase devalues it’s own players because it hates this team right now but a young pass rusher is up there with  importance when building a defense. 

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Rarely a good idea but we also can't keep and pay everyone. This move requires thinking a bit further down the road, managing cap space, trying to build a contender and I don't really think Rhule is capable of more than deciding what to do when asked "Would you like fries with that?"

All we gotta do is stop paying terrible QBs and OL then we could actually keep all of our good young talent. It's not like we have a ton of those guys.

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Are we keeping reddick for some reason in this scenario?

It wasn't really relevant for me for my thought process. Since Reddick is a FA we have no leverage with him other than his current contract offer. Burns however has trade value if we are trying to rebuild. We don't need an edge rusher as a high priority, but if we could draft a young elite graded one and possibly address a couple of other issues with our line. It's a risk obviously, but in 2 years we could lose Burns to FA anyway if we don't tag him. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

All we gotta do is stop paying terrible QBs and OL then we could actually keep all of our good young talent. It's not like we have a ton of those guys.

I know. I'm just trying to be creative and positive in an otherwise depressing offseason. Can't really criticize Rhule for doing nothing if I don't offer at least an objective proposition.

[LinvilleGorge]

If you lose Burns and Reddick you just went from one of the better pass rushes in the NFL to one of the worst.

[LinvilleGorge]

I'd shop CMC just due to his injury issues. I'd beg anyone to take Robby Anderson off our hands.

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Trading good young players is rarely a good idea.

By the time we're actually competitive he's going to be contemplating retirement. Just an observation and I agree with what you're saying, but I might disagree when it comes to RBs.

[mc52beast]

I would do it if the scenario played out. We replace Burns with a younger kid who might be better against the run and we get Linderbaum who I freaking love. 
 

Better believe everything is on the table with a desperate HC.

[KatsAzz]

Burns is a quality player that could be elite when it’s all said and done. But he does leave plenty of sacks out on the field and gap discipline against the run is another area of his game that needs improvement.

Having said that,I am in favor of trading him for draft picks to keep from paying him the big salary he will eventually command, if creative deals can be worked out.

[CBDellinger]

No way we get a 1 for burns. 
 

maybe a 2 and future 3 at most.  

[Ivan The Awesome]

I'd get rid of CMC before burns.