There should be no issue with Watson waiving his trade clause per ESPN.

[jayboogieman]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

Yes if I wanted to get the deal done. That's how this stuff works. Look at the Rams and Lions trade last year.... they had to include goff in the deal for cap reasons to make it happen, and Rams gave up an extra pick to pull it off.

This is a different situation though. The Rams and Lions weren't desperate to make that trade. The Texans haven't been desperate to unload Watson while the Panthers have shown they are desperate to acquire him. The Texans have all the leverage in any deal with the Panthers, especially with other teams looking to trade for Watson too.

[*FreeFua*]

2 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Jake got the team a lot closer to winning a SB than Cam did. Jake also had just as many winning seasons as Cam did, so yeah, he was a franchise QB.

So is Jimmy G a franchise QB as well then?

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

I think that can officially happen on Wednesday when the new league year starts

Gotcha. I know it was officially waived for the Dolphins but maybe that was in the time frame you are referring to last year.

If this is true don’t understand a timeline for waiving a clause when trades are already happening but is what it is I guess.

[Evil Hurney]

5 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

This is a different situation though. The Rams and Lions weren't desperate to make that trade. The Texans haven't been desperate to unload Watson while the Panthers have shown they are desperate to acquire him. The Texans have all the leverage in any deal with the Panthers, especially with other teams looking to trade for Watson too.

The Rams seemed pretty desperate and it's well known that other teams were trying to trade for Stafford.

[TheCasillas]

5 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

This is a different situation though. The Rams and Lions weren't desperate to make that trade. The Texans haven't been desperate to unload Watson while the Panthers have shown they are desperate to acquire him. The Texans have all the leverage in any deal with the Panthers, especially with other teams looking to trade for Watson too.

its pretty much an identical situation. Panthers/Rams desperate for bettter QB talent. Texans/Lions disgruntled QB who wants out.

[Shocker]

13 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Yes if I wanted to get the deal done. That's how this stuff works. Look at the Rams and Lions trade last year.... they had to include goff in the deal for cap reasons to make it happen, and Rams gave up an extra pick to pull it off.

Could totally see this as well…but jeez we will have like no picks for 2 to 3 years.  SMH

[raleigh-panther]

1 hour ago, La Pantera said:

If you get rid of your young guys and give away all those future picks, we'll still be a shitty team. Just one with a franchise QB

It might lead to more free agents coming here 

It also might lead to Rhule looking better than he is and a fractured fanbase, even more so than now 

I have a real hard time supporting a team with Watson in it   Great QB but a creeper

im probably in the minority 

[Evil Hurney]

10 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Gotcha. I know it was officially waived for the Dolphins but maybe that was in the time frame you are referring to last year.

If this is true don’t understand a timeline for waiving a clause when trades are already happening but is what it is I guess.

Technically Russ has a no-trade as well, but has agreed to go to Denver in the past week ... it seems like the no-trade shouldn't have been holding up a potential trade

Edited March 12, 2022 by Evil Hurney

[jayboogieman]

6 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

So is Jimmy G a franchise QB as well then?

Since there is no clear definition of what a franchise QB is, it depends on how you define one.

• Is a franchise QB the face of the franchise?
• Is a franchise QB the starting QB?
• Is a franchise QB someone that consistently puts up high stats?
• Is a franchise QB some that has the support of the organization and they aren't looking to replace him?

The San Francisco area news considered him the face of the team, so yeah, he could be considered a franchise QB.

[mickeye76]

1 hour ago, TheRumGone said:

Younger known players on rookie contracts are more valuable than first round picks. Because it’s a known quantity vs unknown.

Which is why you usually hold on to those players.  Watson is also due like 40 million for this upcoming season that the NFL might decide to shorten for him.  WTF.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, raleigh-panther said:

It might lead to more free agents coming here 

It also might lead to Rhule looking better than he is and a fractured fanbase, even more so than now 

I have a real hard time supporting a team with Watson in it   Great QB but a creeper

im probably in the minority 

Did FA flock to Houston when he was playing?

[therealmjl]

24 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

NFL will decide on a suspension depending on what team he goes to. If he goes to one of their darling teams, nothing will happen. If he comes to us or some other small team, suspension will be imminent. Count on it.

This is what I’m afraid of

[mickeye76]

7 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

its pretty much an identical situation. Panthers/Rams desperate for bettter QB talent. Texans/Lions disgruntled QB who wants out.

Identical except Stafford was a player I could pull for and admire.  Watson is suspect.  

[SmokinwithWilly]

9 minutes ago, Evil Hurney said:

The Rams seemed pretty desperate and it's well known that other teams were trying to trade for Stafford.

The Rams weren't offering top 10 picks, and what could be a top 5 pick next year. They fully expected to get to the SB which would mean pick 32 and then another late 20s/30s pick. Value isn't close to the same.