Malik Willis Pro Day

[BurnNChinn]

1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

Doubt we'd drop back all the way to 20 

If it gives us a lot of picks I’m all for it. Take Corral later I think I like him more anyway

[Call Me James]

10 minutes ago, Lets go get it Canes said:

Ummm no one is said that. Stay on topic. Lamar isn’t healthy. He is a running qb and like allll of them, he won’t win a super bowl. 

In 49 starts he's 37-12 with 84 passing TDs and 31 INT.   

In four seasons he's been to two pro bowls, been MVP and First team all Pro.

Objectively speaking he's been successful.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Where would you place cam. Because most people would say then and now he couldn't pass.

Said it elsewhere, and have said many times, Newton is a Brett Favre level passer. John Elway compares too.

All three guys had general vicinity accuracy and some level of inconsistency. You could see them throw a pass that looked laser accurate on one play, then throw one that would miss the broad side of a barn the next. Whether or not they won games depended on which type of pass they threw more.

I've sometimes referred to them as OMG / WTF passers because some passes made you say OMG and others made you say WTF

And yes, you can win with guys like that if you build around them properly. All three made Super Bowls and two of them won championships (Elway won two).

[SgtJoo]

 

[Jay Roosevelt]

I'd prefer we sign Cam, draft a LT at #6 and target one of the QBs next year. But if we're going QB, I'd prefer Willis to Pickett simply due to the upside.

If you're going QB in the top-10, you need to bet on traits and upside in this day and age. 

[BurnNChinn]

These pro days do nothing for me, I think a waste honestly. You see what they do on film when they have to throw with someone coming at them and covering guy their throwing to.

[frankw]

26 minutes ago, Panther'sBigD said:

Some of y'all are getting all excited about drafting Armanti Edwards 2.0 in the top of the first round. 

They're both black can run with the ball and went to a small school so obviously he's Armanti Edwards 2.0

[SgtJoo]

 

[micnificent28]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Said it elsewhere, and have said many times, Newton is a Brett Favre level passer. John Elway compares too.

All three guys had general vicinity accuracy and some level of inconsistency. You could see them throw a pass that looked laser accurate on one play, then throw one that would miss the broad side of a barn the next. Whether or not they won games depended on which type of pass they threw more.

I've sometimes referred to them as OMG / WTF passers because some passes made you say OMG and others made you say WTF

And yes, you can win with guys like that if you build around them properly. All three made Super Bowls and two of them won championships (Elway won two).

Ok this I agree 100% on. I just think a qbs success and winning a championship isn't 100% on them as many people think. People like to say newton not winning a super bowl is because he wasn't good enough as a passer when other factors like Byron bell and the other horrible tackle came into play.

Winning a championship is a team effort. Not having elite wrs who can help a qb matters. Having a cmc like back matters. Having say von miller on the other side matters. Elite shut down CBS. Its not all on the qb to win a game.

[BurnNChinn]

Just now, SgtJoo said:

 

I guess everyone knows what Carolina wants, they can’t keep secrets. I think there wrong if they go qb at 6 though.

[Mage]

Willis is coming to Carolina

[micnificent28]

4 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

These pro days do nothing for me, I think a waste honestly. You see what they do on film when they have to throw with someone coming at them and covering guy their throwing to.

That isn't how scouting works. You look at film of Willis vs say macaroon state.. that doesn't tell you as much as him throwing to nfl caliber players and seeing him vs = competition. Can he make all the throws? Because on tape his offense was a 1 read and go. Can he do and process more if asked? That's what these are for.

[MHS831]

13 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Doubt we'd drop back all the way to 20 

We could get this year's first, second, and 2023's first (probably a top 10-12 pick). 

That could be interesting if we have to draft a QB in 2023 (we'd have 2 draft picks).

[Jackie Lee]

4 minutes ago, SgtJoo said:

 

His arm makes Pickett's arm look like 38 year old Eli