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Darnold outta here?


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1 minute ago, Vagrant said:

they're clearing the deck for salary because the draft interest in a QB is smoke and with a LT that can play at 6, our team looks competitive on paper minus a QB that we trade to get. We want someone to leapfrog us for Willis so we can get our pick of tackles at 6. Mayfield? 

Mayfield if the Browns cut him and he'll do a prove it deal for like $5M. I'd take Minshew over Mayfield personally

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9 minutes ago, Vagrant said:

they're clearing the deck for salary because the draft interest in a QB is smoke and with a LT that can play at 6, our team looks competitive on paper minus a QB that we trade to get. We want someone to leapfrog us for Willis so we can get our pick of tackles at 6. Mayfield? 

I was with you until you said Mayfield. 

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1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Murray? Pass. That dude doesn't want to play football and gets rattled too easily. 

This is what it’s gonna be. If there is a deal it’s going to be for Kyler Murray. Multiple 1s. We sign Dwayne Brown. Mayfield to the Cardinals. 

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2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Murray? Pass. That dude doesn't want to play football and gets rattled too easily. 

He wants to play….he’s just smart and wants to get paid. He’s gaming the system understanding that if he forces a trade he gets paid. It’s smart. 

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2 hours ago, Zod said:

Latest whispers say the Panthers are willing to trade Darnold plus a young player just for a team to take his contract.

Did we ever get an explanation on picking up the guys 5th year option?  Who was managing this team then, Elmer Fudd?  It's like they don't actually think about what they did. 

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1 minute ago, unicar15 said:

This is what it’s gonna be. If there is a deal it’s going to be for Kyler Murray. Multiple 1s. We sign Dwayne Brown. Mayfield to the Cardinals. 

That would be a huge mistake.  If he was going to be franchise defining qb the Cardinals would not trade him for anything.  He's not Mahomes lite, he's a Mahomes wannabe. 

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5 minutes ago, joemac said:

How do you reconcile Pickett having such superior stats against basically the same competition last year?

Much better supporting cast and he's as old as most second year NFL players. He's a literal man playing against boys.

Swap Pickett and Howell and UNC probably wins 3 games and Pickett is a priority UDFA. Real talk. Pickett is the beneficiary of a better than average veteran team and an addition year of eligibility due to COVID.

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