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Sam Howell's Pro Day

Mr. Scot

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3 hours ago, Catsfan69 said:

These idiots can't drive 2 hrs north?????

 

I might not be crazy about him but that's stupid. And people wanted to get on us about Jackson fng State? This is way more egregious. 

Lmaooooo....second round grade brother.  J/k

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Honestly--I think he comes into play as early as #18 (New Orleans) and #20 (Pittsburgh)  I think it is unlikely he passes the Lions after that (#32 and #34) IF they do not take Willis at #2.  If Ridder is rated higher than Howell, however, Howell could drop into round 2.   There is no way he slips into round 3---I guarantee it. 

I think there is a deliberate effort by Tar Heel haters to discredit all that is UNC and there are UNC fans that promote all that is UNC--once you cut through that crap, you will find Howell to be worthy of late first round consideration, but likely an early second round pick. 

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12 minutes ago, onmyown said:

when you guys comment on Howell can you do us all a favor and specify whether you’re a tar heel fan/alumni/homer beforehand? 

makes it easier to gloss over the comments

thnx

Or if you hate the heels so much that anything positive about them is perceived as hype or exaggeration. 

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Many of you were riding the Howell train last year and now it has changed to be he isn't that great a QB. If he is drafted by us what then. He just may be what the team needs and he could develop into a good player and could overthrow Darnolds QB thrown. But not our first round pick.

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