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1 minute ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Warren Sharp’s argument is disingenuous. Darnold was the bad deal yes but trading picks for a developmental player and a 2024 pick for a possible decent qb is a bad thing? 
 

Skip Bayless is a clown and Baker fan boy and his take basically is a win win for him. Baker fails he was right about the panthers, Baler succeeds and he’s great for leading the awful Panthers. He can’t lose.  

so warren sharp is wrong?

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Just now, Panthercougar68 said:

He arguing the qb room is awful is he not? Baker with Sam backing up and Matt in development is not awful. 

Bro, thats a shitty room no matter how you slice it.  2 of the worst qbs of the past 4 years and a rookie coming in from an RPO system.  

 

Sharp is simply pointing out we have given up a ton of assets for some average (at the very best) qbs and qb prospects

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I’m not gonna lie, Skip is right. The panthers are the biggest mess in the NFL. Egomaniac owner with zero football team building ability or knowledge, amateur head coach, bullshit QB situation, injury prone star players, and the cherry on top - the ugliest head coaching staff ever assembled. 

Adding Faker to the mix just added a wildcard of drama and crybaby to an already potentially volatile situation. 

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Just now, hepcat said:

I’m not gonna lie, Skip is right. The panthers are the biggest mess in the NFL. Egomaniac owner with zero football team building ability or knowledge, amateur head coach, bullshit QB situation, injury prone star players, and the cherry on top - the ugliest head coaching staff ever assembled. 

Adding Faker to the mix just added a wildcard of drama and crybaby to an already potentially volatile situation. 

I mean poo...........you are not wrong.  Its worded a bit harsh but.....you aint wrong

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28 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

He arguing the qb room is awful is he not? Baker with Sam backing up and Matt in development is not awful.  
 

I get it you hate Baker but I think it’s an improvement.

You’ll be hard pressed to find a QB room worst than ours. The ones you do find, we might be slightly better, but the fact that you’re even comparing them shows how bad it is. 

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41 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Sharp is simply pointing out we have given up a ton of assets for some average (at the very best) qbs and qb prospects

A whole lot of other big name QBs were considered "average" at some point in their careers.

Farve sat on the Falcons bench, Brady was drafted #199... there are other examples where QBs overcame an "average" tag and did fairly well.

Will it happen with us?  Probably not.  

But it could.

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20 minutes ago, SazmoRanger said:

You’ll be hard pressed to find a QB room worst than ours. The ones you do find, we might be slightly better, but the fact that you’re even comparing them shows how bad it is. 

Im not saying its great but when you don't have an elite qb all qb rooms are kinda just meh You better hope that QB 1 is better than half the league and I feel like a middle of the road qb is better than what we've had over the last 4 years.

Lock and Geno?

Rudolph, Trubisky, and Pickett?

Mariota and Ridder?

Goff and Boyle?

Mills, Kyle Allen, and Driskol?

Jones, Taylor, and Davis Webb?

Winston and Andy Dalton?

Fields, Peterman, and Siemien?

There's is a whole lot of sub par rooms which is why having an actual QB 1 goes a longgggg way. You add Allen, Mahomes, Stafford etc to any of those room and they are instant better but again I'm just arguing that finding that QB 1 is priority 1.

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