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A bit of perspective (re Corral)


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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Corral's arm isn't bad but he and Baker don't have similar arms. Baker has significantly better arm talent. 

Bull. That's crap. I called you on it before, and I'm calling it on you now.  You act like the tale of the tape has shown some type of amazing arm talent from Mayfield. The fact is that he's been a disappointment.

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It's only been less than a week since we started TC but to be honest.  I haven't seen Baker or Sam really take a step forward.  A couple of nice throws here and there but nothing special.

I get the concern about throwing Corral into the starting line up early.  I think we have enough talent offensively that he doesn't have to do it on his own.

If Baker and Sam continue to be unimpressive than our season is sunk anyhow.  Give the rookie a chance and build an offensive game plan around his talent and our playmakers.  Kind of like how Pittsburgh brought Big Ben along so many years ago. 

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8 hours ago, top dawg said:

You know the Heisman is a really poor predictor of NFL success, right?

8 hours ago, top dawg said:

Name another what?

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6 hours ago, top dawg said:

Bull. That's crap. I called you on it before, and I'm calling it on you now.  You act like the tale of the tape has shown some type of amazing arm talent from Mayfield. The fact is that he's been a disappointment.

Sure. "Call" me on it. 😂

I don't think you'll find many who agree with you. Fan boy if you want, that's cool. Baker has been a disappointment but the dude has a helluva arm. Do you think Jamarcus Russell and Jeff George didn't have great arms because they were flops?

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It really isn't about Corral's skill set--he is impressive.  Transitioning from college to pros is tough for a QB, and the more prepared he is, the higher his chance for success.  He could be ready week 1, but that is highly unlikely.  He could be ready week 8, week 12 or in 2023, but putting him under center before he had demonstrated NFL proficiency is dooming him to the fate of countless others before him.  Yes, he has a good arm.  So did Jamarcus Russell.  Some of you compare him to Russell Wilson--Wilson is one of the most cerebral QBs in the NFL--always has been.  Is Corral there yet?  I have not seen it---yet.  His skills are impressive and we are desperate for a messiah.

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9 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Corral came in pissed off, has shown up early every day and is starting to look more relaxed in general from pictures and everything. At the least glad he's not being a diva and just biding his time. Message board aside no one wants a Darnold or PJ autograph, if Tepper wants to go business side on things roll with Baker and Corral, they have more similar arms and playing styles anyway so the adjustments aren't as crazy for the rest of the offense

And I can see that happening.  I am not suggesting that Baker is the answer, but if I look at the players with similar skill sets, I am going with the one with NFL experience until he proves to me that he is not the answer.  During that time, I will be preparing Corral like a NASCAR pit crew.

I just do not see how Sam would be the option if Baker fails, and I think it would be awkward if not toxic to keep him around.  If I am Sam, and I don't earn the starting gig, I want to be cut.

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23 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

 During that time, I will be preparing Corral like a NASCAR pit crew.

My only issue is we aren't. Rhule is splitting reps between Darnold and Mayfield. Neither Corral or PJ are getting much run. I think you gotta get reps to develop.

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4 minutes ago, trueblade said:

My only issue is we aren't. Rhule is splitting reps between Darnold and Mayfield. Neither Corral or PJ are getting much run. I think you gotta get reps to develop.

My hope is that this is temporary--that when Baker wins the Job, Darnold gets cut or moved to #3

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Opinions will vary about Corral but the aspect that should not be disputable is we shouldn't be wasting reps on a QB with no future here and possibly as a starter in the rest of the NFL. Corral should be splitting reps with Darnold from here on out at the very least.

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3 minutes ago, frankw said:

Opinions will vary about Corral but the aspect that should not be disputable is we shouldn't be wasting reps on a QB with no future here and possibly as a starter in the rest of the NFL. Corral should be splitting reps with Darnold from here on out at the very least.

PJ and Sam should be cut like yesterday.  Its insane that they are still wasting space on this roster taking up valuable practice time. 

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Meh.  Plenty of teams have 4 QBs on the roster at this point. Corral isn't starting anytime soon.  Most backups get limited time with the 1s.  If we could trade Sam, we would.

We'll be down to 3 at the cut and the huddle will still continue to bellyache about this.

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4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Sure. "Call" me on it. 😂

I don't think you'll find many who agree with you. Fan boy if you want, that's cool. Baker has been a disappointment but the dude has a helluva arm. Do you think Jamarcus Russell and Jeff George didn't have great arms because they were flops?

I'll take Simms' evaluation over yours. Sorry.

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