Myles Garrett calls relationship with Baker Mayfield “slightly complicated,” admits “some disagreements”

[Mr. Scot]

Please tell me we're giving Ickey help this Sunday...

[AlphabetsEnd]

Myles Garrett's relationship with the truth is also complicated. 

[panthers55]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Please tell me we're giving Ickey help this Sunday...

McAdoo said he wasn't going to be alone in protection but did say that Ickey has to be able to hold his own 1 on 1 at times. 

[kungfoodude]

34 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

From all I heard from Cleveland fans there was a big divide between those players  loyal to Baker and those loyal to OBJ. When OBJ's father jumped in it got worse. Apparently Garrett was one of the guys fomenting the rift and wanting Baker gone.  Fortunately for us we got Baker for peanuts because Cleveland couldn't keep him on the roster and not cause big locker room issues. 

So basically OBJ was the cancer?

[panthers55]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

So basically OBJ was the cancer?

That is the feeling I got.  Apparently when his father jumped it, it went nuclear. Has OBJ been a good teammate anywhere he has been?

[AlphabetsEnd]

This was the fear when he joined up, and it flared up at various points. The infamous clip of Chubb and OBJ chatting on the sidelines, and OBJ saying "I just want to score a Touchdown" and Chubb responding "I just want to win" sort of summed up OBJ in CLE to me. 

That, and quitting on plays, dropping passes, moping on sidelines. 

OBJ knew what he was doing by throwing Mayfield under the bus with his dad's video - he knew Mayfield was polarizing and playing hurt. He was the perfect scapegoat. 

Edited September 9, 2022 by AlphabetsEnd

[Mr. Scot]

Beckham reminds me a lot of Terrell Owens.

When you've got that much talent and teams still don't want you, it's probably time to ask yourself some tough questions.

[Jackie Lee]

1 hour ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I was told Baker was the diva?

Yeah sounds like Garrett wanted say in OBJ vs Baker decision and input on the 2021 QB situation. Garrett/Stefanski/Baker was definitely a bad trio of your top ego guys, but sounds like Baker didn't really do anything fuged up besides play hurt for 16 games

[SameDamnThing]

here's the thing about being imperfect. you can have a complicated past, have been an asshole, but also still be redeemable as a person. I think baker came into the league like a hotshot. he was the 1st overall pick. he acted like it. especially after his first season and during his first season. he rubbed people the wrong way. you can get away with that when you're dotting people up like tom brady, but you start to look human and everyone wants to put it back in your face. all those times you talked poo about the defense. every time you got frustrated with your WR unit. baker got some humility, but it didn't kill him or his career. his attitude has been visibly better and more sincere. he understands that his mouth can get him in more trouble than his arm can get him out of and he has adjusted. there's probably a lot of bad relationships back in cleveland but those dudes aren't in our room and the baker they know is this baker. the one that has shown maturity and realizes that a bad bounce on the QB carousel can put you on the bench for a couple seasons having to prove your worth to start again. we don't need to defend anything he did in cleveland because he's here now and what he does here is what counts for us. 

[mav1234]

Although I was a huge fan of Mayfield's statements in the wake of the Garrett helmet incident, I imagine that earned him no friends in the lockerroom, and the two of them were already rumored to be at odds. Meh.

[davos]

I’m a Baker fan. The dude clearly respects his peers even if he rubs people the wrong way. At least he’s not paying people to rub him in any way possible like the Browns guy.

[4Corners]

1 hour ago, AlphabetsEnd said:

Myles Garrett's relationship with the truth is also complicated. 

I mean he is an SEC “student” athlete lol 

[Call Me James]

Guys are talking about OBJ like he didn't go to the Rams and win a super bowl. 

[AlphabetsEnd]

1 minute ago, Call Me James said:

Guys are talking about OBJ like he didn't go to the Rams and win a super bowl. 

His splits were almost identical in LA as in CLE (slightly better in CLE actually, except for TDs, which go to RBs in CLE).