Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

NFL: Pats relationship with Mac Jones "gone sideways"

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, SuperBowlBound said:

The same can be said for all of the other QBs from the “vaunted” 2021 QB class. I’m very down on things but the one thing they got right was passing on Fields & Jones and not selling the farm for Wilson or Lance. At this time - I’m not sold on Young (size, frame) or Stroud (Ohio State QBs don’t translate as they cannot read the field) for 2023. 

Said it elsewhere: Justin Fields isn't doing CJ Stroud any favors.

Edited by Mr. Scot
  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Waldo Grand Master

Waldo

Posted
Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, SuperBowlBound said:

The same can be said for all of the other QBs from the “vaunted” 2021 QB class. I’m very down on things but the one thing they got right was passing on Fields & Jones and not selling the farm for Wilson or Lance. At this time - I’m not sold on Young (size, frame) or Stroud (Ohio State QBs don’t translate as they cannot read the field) for 2023. 

I liked Lance but not for more than one 1st and he had plenty of bust potential. Last year looks so much worse but even a good enough for now QB has great value outside of the first. I'm with you on Young, I would need to see why he is the exception and not the rule. Stroud worries me less from a distance, all that school stuff goes out the window once they have an NFL coaching staff...if they staff is any good.

If you have a chance at a guy with the physical skills, mental ability and tape to backup what they can be in the NFL and not all the school baggage then take the shot and don't worry about wasting just a 1st because if they are not the one then you just use another 1st until you find one (or hit the jackpot and find one outside of the 1st that is an actual franchise QB). All those guys need to finish this year so we can take a long look at the entire picture and not the ups and downs of a season. 

Edited by Waldo
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Waldo Grand Master

Waldo

Posted
Posted
19 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

100%  but if Rhule had drafted him he still would have a job. 

Lol no QB played well on a Rhule team. They all had historically bad years ( I didn't and won't look at Cam's #s ). There is more to that story than I know but thems facts sir. If Rhule drafted him he might have ruined his career vs looking serviceable last year.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

49ers would def be calling

He'd be going from an E-P to a Shanahan type WCO. Some common concepts but the terminology would likely be way more complicated.

Really smart head coach though. Can never discount that.

Edited by Mr. Scot
Link to comment
Share on other sites
mrcompletely11 Grand Master

mrcompletely11

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Lol no QB played well on a Rhule team. They all had historically bad years ( I didn't and won't look at Cam's #s ). There is more to that story than I know but thems facts sir. If Rhule drafted him he might have ruined his career vs looking serviceable last year.

2 things:  Rhule would have been given a longer leash with Jones and I think he probably would have won some more games with jones.  Mac isnt terrible per se, just limited

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TheCasillas Grand Master

TheCasillas

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He'd be going from an E-P to a Shanahan type WCO. Some common concepts but the terminology would likely be way more complicated.

Really smart head coach though. Can never discount that.

Shanahan's seat is warming up apparently. If the 9ers dont get to the playoffs this year, there are rumblings they will move on from him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
  • Author
Posted
1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

Shanahan's seat is warming up apparently. If the 9ers dont get to the playoffs this year, there are rumblings they will move on from him.

I think that would be a huge mistake.

Moving on from Lynch? That I could see.

What they gave up to move up and get Trey Lance is really biting them on the ass right now. The move for Carson Wentz last year didn't exactly help Chris Ballard either.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TheCasillas Grand Master

TheCasillas

Posted
Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think that would be a huge mistake.

Moving on from Lynch? That I could see.

What they gave up to move up and get Trey Lance is really biting them on the ass right now. The move for Carson Wentz last year didn't exactly help Chris Ballard either.

but what he got back for Wentz did.....

 

As for Shanahan, the 9ers just cant score right now. They are one of the worst scoring teams in the NFL. For what they have talent wise and the field position their defense gets them in.... they should be top 10.

 

He has 2 winning seasons in 6 years there.....

Edited by TheCasillas
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • TD alt
      Derrick Brown appreciation thread.

      By TD alt · Posted

      Derrick Brown was one player I never called or even suggested was a bust . Dude was young and hadn't even hit his stride. It takes time to learn the position. The thing I appreciated about him is that he kept improving season after season. He got paid and keeps on going like the Energizer Bunny.
    • SmokinwithWilly
      Joe Person: Ickey is expected to be extended, Mays is someone we want to keep long term, TE, LB and OLB are our biggest needs heading into the offseason

      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

      How many teams coddle their QB the way Bryce has been coddled? I have never seen any other team in the NFL EVER baby a QB the way that Bryce has been.  Bryce was named day 1 starter his first year. It was obvious he didnt deserve it. He wasnt ready as evidenced by the worst rookie year in NFL history.  So let's move to year 2. He's named starter again with no competition in TC and is benched 2 games later. We have the ghost of a backup in Dalton who is so bad he can only beat Vegas and let's remember, the only reason he lost his starting job was a car accident, not because Bryce actually beat him out in practice.  And year 3. We sign Dalton again, who already proved he couldn't be depended on to put an even remotely passable performance on the field, and bring back Jack Plummer, who was even worse than last year. It was obvious he was nothing more than a pretend body in an attempt to create an illusion of some type of attempt to find a backup.  Then we start again with garbage play again and Bryce gets benched with a phantom injury, and the ghost of the ghost of Dalton breaks his thumb on the first drive and craps the field all over again. If we had actually made an attempt to find a legitimate QB2, it's possible Bryce doesn't step on the field again. Bryce is not agood QB and if we had any other mediocre QB, our record would be the same or better.  Bryce is not entrenched. He's been placed, protected and sheltered from ever having to face a  real QB competition in TC. Richardson and Levis both were ass and both were benched and eventually replaced.  Do I expect Baker to face competition in camp? Sure. I expect Tampa to find the best QB2 they can at price that fits their cap and resources and system and get him up to speed. If he's better than Baker, and if he's better by a significant margin, that's best for the team. The ultimate goal is a Super Bowl. Bellichek was constantly getting QB2s with the GOAT as his starter. He knew the value and that was realized when Cassell led them to an 11-5 record as a backup.  You and I may think differently than the people that matter but I will say it again. If you're afraid to bring in a capable backup, especially after the debacle of last year. The starting role wasn't earned, it was given, and that's loser mentality.
    • Shocker
      2025 College Football Thread

      By Shocker · Posted

      I would have done the same thing.  LSU is a much better job than Ole Miss.  Plus the enormous contract and every advantage a college team can offer in terms of recruiting and facilities and tradition etc 
×
×
  • Create New...