Trevor Lawrence proves going #1 doesn't mean much

[JARROD]

What’s whack is the modern day impatience that says someone sucks if they don’t throw 5 touchdowns, zero picks and run 100 yards a game out of the gate.

the second is there is so much success and failure riding on who drafts who. There are tons of “busts” that would have been at least serviceable if drafted by betters. There’s also good and greats that would have been busts or journeymen if they were drafted different.

Trevor Lawrence may or may not be “generational talent” but it’s hard to tell by who drafted him

[TheCasillas]

7 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

And I was pretty much begging us to take Herbert before that draft. Oh how things are different here in Carolina with Herbert.

So was Marty Hurney

[Davidson Deac II]

Just now, Krovvy said:

It's like Groundhog Day every year.

We could be like the Dolphins, tank and be one game ahead of where we are at.  

[Krovvy]

Just now, Davidson Deac II said:

We could be like the Dolphins, tank and be one game ahead of where we are at.  

The front office is already tanking. The coach and players are of course going to shoot for the moon. That moon might be a 6 win, one and done in the playoffs season however.

[45catfan]

17 minutes ago, Jmac said:

They called him a "generational talent" at QB. All the pundits said he was a "no miss" pick.

I just see an average QB that really hasn't done much so far in the league. Going #1 is still a crap shoot.

Panthers need to play to win and not put hopes on getting that "no miss" QB at #1.

Let the chips fall where they may. Get a quality HC and use the picks and FA to fill out the team. 

They can find a good QB after the top two. Nothing is a sure thing.

 

Typical Clemson product.

[Catsfan69]

9 minutes ago, WeDoNotTank said:

And the Giants are proving you don't need a good QB to go 6-1

 

 

 

Is he not playing well this year?

[WeDoNotTank]

1 minute ago, Catsfan69 said:

Is he not playing well this year?

People think the QB has to light the world on fire he definitely isn't.

Daniel Jones has been the definition of a game manager.

[Doc Holiday]

6 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

So was Marty Hurney

Say what you will about Hurney, dude was money in the first round. If I were the Panthers I’d kept him on the payroll to just do that!

[Pimpdaddy]

good coaching would make those stats a lot different...when the coach on your team is a cancer.... you look like us....

Edited October 23, 2022 by Pimpdaddy

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Yeah Hurney should have been GM on one night a year, the first round of the NFL draft.

[Jackie Lee]

22 minutes ago, Jmac said:

They called him a "generational talent" at QB. All the pundits said he was a "no miss" pick.

I just see an average QB that really hasn't done much so far in the league. Going #1 is still a crap shoot.

Panthers need to play to win and not put hopes on getting that "no miss" QB at #1.

Let the chips fall where they may. Get a quality HC and use the picks and FA to fill out the team. 

They can find a good QB after the top two. Nothing is a sure thing.

 

People buying into this next class of QB's from the jump was dumb. It's like 4 guys and maybe 1 guy is gonna be a starter beyond their rookie contract

[CRA]

8 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Typical Clemson product.

Already in his 2nd offense on his 2nd year.  Hard to claim he even had a real rookie season last year. 

Weak talent around him.  Real bad year 1.

- 65% completion percentage 

- Tied for 8th in TDs (somewhere around there.  Not sure if all stats have pulled over this week yet)

 - has had the lead in every game in the 4th Q but the Eagles game.  Takes awhile for QBs to learn to win late.  

Trevor isn’t playing bad LMAO.  Trevor is literally what you tank to build around.  Build around being what they are suppose to do now.  Seems like most people are glancing at win column and little else on this one. 

 

[PantherPhann89]

25 minutes ago, Jmac said:

They called him a "generational talent" at QB. All the pundits said he was a "no miss" pick.

I just see an average QB that really hasn't done much so far in the league. Going #1 is still a crap shoot.

Panthers need to play to win and not put hopes on getting that "no miss" QB at #1.

Let the chips fall where they may. Get a quality HC and use the picks and FA to fill out the team. 

They can find a good QB after the top two. Nothing is a sure thing.

 

I get where you're coming from but I don't wanna be stuck with where we are. Ayutthaya the exception of Corral. If like to see what he brings... we need a QB we can build with...

[Davidson Deac II]

23 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Those percentages are completely made up unless you can show me some data to back them up.

It was an estimate, but I went and looked it up.  I was probably being generous with the 25%

Here is the list of qb's picked in the top five since 2011 (I started with Cam).  And I left out the qb's picked after 2020, well the jury is still out on those guys.

2020
Burrow
Tua
2019
Murray
2018
Mayfield
Darnold
2017
Trubisky
2016
Goff
Wentz
2015
Winston
Mariotta
2013
Blake Bortles
2012
Luck
RGIII
2011

Cam.  

Personally, I would only call three of those picked in the top five elite.  Cam, Luck, and Burrow.  3 out of 14.  

I don't feel like looking up 6-10, but off the top of my head, we have Allen, Mahomes, and Herbert.  

 

Edited October 23, 2022 by Davidson Deac II