Brian Burns has more sacks than any other player in NFL history under 25 years old

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, Mage said:

Yes, Scott Fitterer is so desperate to have a winning team next season, he traded away Christian McCaffrey.

Exactly. He knew that he has other running backs who could carry the load and the fact McCaffrey had an injury history and a huge contract. Fitterer is doing what the coaches and owner wants to do and for my money is doing a pretty good job.

[1of10Charnatives]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

We have WR's and LT locked down. Just need 2 QB's and 2 DE's. Burns is a 3-4 outside LB. Hanes I'm undecided on.

Hanes is a situational pass rusher. I like him in that role, but nothing more.

[Mage]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

We have WR's and LT locked down. Just need 2 QB's and 2 DE's. Burns is a 3-4 outside LB. Hanes I'm undecided on.

I usually agree with you on most things but you are talking wild right now bro.  Burns can absolutely play 4-3 DE (as he has proven).  He's the same build, size, and type of player that Jason Taylor was and I've said this since we drafted him.  And Taylor is a HOF DE.

Will Burns become a Hall of Famer?  Probably not, its hard to reach that level.  But Burns is 100% a 4-3 DE.  Could he play 3-4 OLB sure but that is a big assumption considering he's never done full-time it in his entire career, college included.

[Jon Snow]

Just now, 1of10Charnatives said:

Hanes is a situational pass rusher. I like him in that role, but nothing more.

Kinda like Burns but better at it.

[MasterAwesome]

1 minute ago, Jaxel said:

Well it's not Burns fault Bosa isn't durable. That half the battle in the NFL.

If you want to give Burns a point over Bosa for his durability then that's fair, but clearly you were trying to make the case that they're similar caliber DEs based on production when they're not.

[trueblade]

3 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

Well it's not Burns fault Bosa isn't durable. That half the battle in the NFL.

It's important context. Bosa has equaled Burns production and played a full season less games.

[KBRed]

Burns shouldn’t be judged based on just sack numbers. What a great stat that is. But, if you watch him play…most games he’s causing the QB to be uncomfortable in the pocket. I remember when a lot of folks on here thought Peppers slacked on plays/games just because he didn’t get a sack. Burns isn’t Peppers, but he is 24, and has a lot of wisdom to gain. So, where he is now, it’s pretty extraordinary. 

[panthers55]

5 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Bosa has played 16 less games than Burns due to injury in his second season.  So basically the same production in one less season.

I like Burns but he's not in the same league as Bosa.

Injuries count as far as production. If you can't stay on the field you don't get credit for only when you played. If Burns stays healthy and Bosa doesn't then Burns is better because he can play every game. Sacks aren't the only way to.measure production. Being out there every game is a big part of things as well.

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Mage said:

I usually agree with you on most things but you are talking wild right now bro.  Burns can absolutely play 4-3 DE (as he has proven).  He's the same build, size, and type of player that Jason Taylor was and I've said this since we drafted him.  And Taylor is a HOF DE.

Will Burns become a Hall of Famer?  Probably not, its hard to reach that level.  But Burns is 100% a 4-3 DE.  Could he play 3-4 OLB sure but that is a big assumption considering he's never done full-time it in his entire career, college included.

They were running 3-4 sets a lot last night, especially in the first half. Burns was a none factor in both sets until that 1 play he got a sack.  Hanes was more of a factor in this game. 

Burns is overrated. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, panthers55 said:

Injuries count as far as production. If you can't stay on the field you don't get credit for only when you played. If Burns stays healthy and Bosa doesn't then Burns is better because he can play every game. Sacks aren't the only way to.measure production. Being out there every game is a big part of things as well.

Just so we are clear you think burns is better then bosa?

[Mage]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

They were running 3-4 sets a lot last night, especially in the first half. Burns was a none factor in both sets until that 1 play he got a sack.  Hanes was more of a factor in this game. 

Burns is overrated. 

So the Rams, a good organization, were willing to trade 2 1st round for Brian Burns even though he is worse than Marquis Haynes?  No offense but can you at least acknowledge how crazy that sounds?  

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Mage said:

So the Rams, a good organization, were willing to trade 2 1st round for Brian Burns even though he is worse than Marquis Haynes?  No offense but can you at least acknowledge how crazy that sounds?  

I don't care what the Rams think. If he's not helping our team win then he does us no good. See McCaffrey.  

Agree to disagree. 

[Growl]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

I don't care what the Rams think. If he's not helping our team win then he does us no good. See McCaffrey.  

Agree to disagree. 

we all agree your opinion is bad

[PappyMay]

46 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Burns doesn't get double teamed. Watch him play, I do. He's a jag who gets a sack or a pressure when it doesn't matter. He never shows up on money downs. Hanes did it twice in one game. 

Burns is overrated and if they pay him he will NEVER earn it.

I've said my piece. 

Its Haynes.  He didnt even get touched the 2nd sack because the tackle looked inside to help with Brown and he was off the ball too fast for the RB to do anything about it. Literally any speed rusher would have got that sack.