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Ellis Williams. Char observer on top 4 QBs Note, This is not in depth

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6 minutes ago, Kentucky Panther said:

Any of them but Richardson. Clearly the worst of the four. 

I totally get him being a gamble but how can you say clearly the worst when he’s outperformed Levis against every single common opponent they have had this year? 

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36 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

A boom or bust prospect should at least be somewhat within the boom range.

I am not seeing that for Richardson. Outside of physically looking the part and having a good arm, he has no other valid QB qualities. That's a problem.

Even Levis has times where you clearly see QB qualities in his play. Richardson rarely had any.

Yeah but see, you can take any guy who's got great athletic characteristics and teach him how to play quarterback.

(or so I've been told) 🤔

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24 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Go back and watch Josh Allen in college. You're gonna be shocked.

 

 

When I say he was wildly inaccurate I'm not exaggerating. Dude couldn't hit water from a fuging boat.

Sure, and this is the classic "Russell Wilson" or "Tom Brady" argument. If you base your projections on outliers, it usually ends up poorly.

Now, are his(Richardson's) issues with either mechanics and field vision correctable? Possibly. It's up to the scouting department to figure out if that is something he has tried to correct and simply cannot or just hasn't been developed correctly.

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10 minutes ago, CmC2k said:

Anthony Richardson can either be Josh Allen lite or Terrelle Pryor 2.0. It all depends on who drafts him and what plan they have to develop him. 

There are factors in that equation that we don't know anything about as laymen.

It may be that he isn't that coachable. It may be that he doesn't work on his craft. It may be that Florida's development is trash. 

Those aren't things most of us will ever know and all these evaluators will have to try and get a handle on.

 

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3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

There are factors in that equation that we don't know anything about as laymen.

It may be that he isn't that coachable. It may be that he doesn't work on his craft. It may be that Florida's development is trash. 

Those aren't things most of us will ever know and all these evaluators will have to try and get a handle on.

 

The interview and background process is a huge part of the evaluation that we get minimal insight into as fans and it's utterly vital and anything that does come out is likely to be misinformation.

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      I've just seen enough highly touted prospects who pretty much everyone was high on end up busting to assume anything.
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