Person: "Staff of Aces"

[ForJimmy]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

He's there to help them identify leaders. To identify the guys who are me first types so the team will know what they are getting if they draft or sign them. That's a pretty good thing to know before you throw a ton of cash and responsibility at a player. 

Good point. Imagine having him in on interviews to see if any of these young QBs are natural leaders for the team. Great asset to have!

[ForJimmy]

4 minutes ago, onmyown said:

he’s learning what everyone already knew though, at the expense of fans, then wants kudos for fixing his dumbassery and so you give it to him? Lol that’s why fans are like wtf

he solidified the worst down in 30 years

wtf are you saying

this all star staff were signed to less time than Rhule too lol and Rhule’s GM is still here

these hires prove Reich has been in the game a long time and is connected that means…exactly that

i may have high standards but a winning season might be needed before we claim Tepper is a genius. I’ll even take .500.

I don’t think anyone is saying Tepper is a genius, at least not a football genius. However he isn’t just some buffoon owner imposing his will on the team whenever he sees fit. He tried something outside the box and failed. Now he is trying a much more traditional way of reestablishing a franchise. He is adaptable and open to change while also not afraid to own and move on from his mistakes. That’s really all we as fans can ask for at this point. If it fails he will scrap it and try again.

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

11 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Rhule wouldn't be qualified as an assistant position coach on this staff lol. Doesn't mean all the chemistry and everything will work in the long run, but I don't see any grifters except maybe that green beret guy who is probably just a last filter for roster decisions

Rhule couldn’t make ball boy on this staff 

[Camp Fodder]

21 hours ago, Jaxel said:

I think it's abundantly clear how Reich separated himself in the interview process.

Yep

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, onmyown said:

he’s learning what everyone already knew though, at the expense of fans, then wants kudos for fixing his dumbassery and so you give it to him? Lol that’s why fans are like wtf

he solidified the worst down in 30 years

wtf are you saying

this all star staff were signed to less time than Rhule too lol and Rhule’s GM is still here

these hires prove Reich has been in the game a long time and is connected that means…exactly that

i may have high standards but a winning season might be needed before we claim Tepper is a genius. I’ll even take .500.

So, what? It takes time to learn. There is no substitute for time. No one said Tepper is a genius, but he appears to be an adept learner, not prone to knee-jerk reactions. He came in at a disadvantageous time (right before TC), had to get his bearings, took a big swing however ill-advised, and did all these things while learning lessons about the NFL. You can fault him for it, but I'm not. It was never realistic to think that a guy like him would come in with a scorched-earth mindeset. That's not how smart businessmen generally deal.

Fitterer is not "Rhule's GM," that's laughable; Fitterer is Tepper's GM. Rhule was likely an albatross around Fitterer's neck.

Fitterer has been on the business side and the personnel side of football longer than Frank Reich. Don't forget that.

 

[Navy_football]

1 hour ago, onmyown said:

he’s learning what everyone already knew though, at the expense of fans, then wants kudos for fixing his dumbassery and so you give it to him? Lol that’s why fans are like wtf

he solidified the worst down in 30 years

wtf are you saying

this all star staff were signed to less time than Rhule too lol and Rhule’s GM is still here

these hires prove Reich has been in the game a long time and is connected that means…exactly that

i may have high standards but a winning season might be needed before we claim Tepper is a genius. I’ll even take .500.

I hear you, but...

Rhule was a hot name for many pundits. He failed miserably because he wasn't qualified and didn't bring in the staff to help lift him in his deficiencies. But Rhule wasn't a "head scratcher-destined to fail" hire. He was highly sought after.

Tepper's willingness to think outside the box and open his checkbook gave me hope. That's all I really look for in an owner. Be willing to pay guys that know what they're doing to run the team. New owner figuring out how to get the right guys in place. The previous owner would never!

[Wes21]

22 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I never thought I could get so excited about a coaching staff. I was lukewarm about Reich at first, wanted Ben Johnson but was fine with Reich when he decided not to leave Detroit, but the sum total of what he’s put together so far is incredibly impressive. 

 

21 hours ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

For all of Tepper's mistakes, everyone can agree that he is not shy about opening up the pocket book for high quality talent/coaches. I wonder how much he paid each assistant/position coaches to come here. His judgement and evaluation just sucks, hopefully he is listening to football minds now and not businessmen. At least we have an owner that does want the best and willing to pay for it. 

Its a blessing that someone he hires needs to take advantage of.  The Detroit Lions are a good example of a team where the owner is willing to pay but the people they hire don't know what to do with the money.  Matt Millen was an absolute disaster but he was one of the highest paid GMs in the league.  He was able to grab Mooch, who was one of the highest paid HCs in the league.  They were able to land Mike Martz as OC because they paid the best.  The story goes on and on and on.  Tepper is willing to open up the checkbook so its up to the top guys he's hired to deliver on that funding.  

I am stupid crazy excited about this staff.  This is almost the polar opposite of the Matt Rhule hire and Matt Rhule staff.  We should NEVER hire a guy like Rhule ever again.  He doesn't have the NFL pedigree to put together a quality staff.  That's why we were flooded with college guys and cast offs with Rhule.  Guys are literally uprooting their families and putting faith in the head coach when they sign on.  Noone takes pulling their kids out of their school lightly.  Rhule couldn't get legit NFL guys to do that.  Frank Reich on the other hand was able to land Todd Wash, who was in the cat bird's seat in Detroit on a rising tide.  And he still made the lateral move to Charlotte.  That's powerful AF and speaks to what Reich + Tepper can do.

[top dawg]

3 hours ago, Navy_football said:

I hear you, but...

Rhule was a hot name for many pundits. He failed miserably because he wasn't qualified and didn't bring in the staff to help lift him in his deficiencies. But Rhule wasn't a "head scratcher-destined to fail" hire. He was highly sought after.

Tepper's willingness to think outside the box and open his checkbook gave me hope. That's all I really look for in an owner. Be willing to pay guys that know what they're doing to run the team. New owner figuring out how to get the right guys in place. The previous owner would never!

Great point. I didn't even think of that. Rhule was the hot name at the time, and many actually thought that he'd make a great coach. Even after the first year, many a Huddler, as well as many NFL types were pleasantly surprised and given reason to be guardedly optimistic. Now, after the disaster, some want to engage in revisionist history. 

I didn't flat out turn against Rhule and definitively realize that he didn't know what the hell he was doing until the past season. If anyone wants a hand because they realized earlier than others that Rhule was an unmitigated disaster, here you go. 

Edited February 18, 2023 by top dawg

[Mr. Scot]

5 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I don’t think anyone is saying Tepper is a genius, at least not a football genius. However he isn’t just some buffoon owner imposing his will on the team whenever he sees fit. He tried something outside the box and failed. Now he is trying a much more traditional way of reestablishing a franchise. He is adaptable and open to change while also not afraid to own and move on from his mistakes. That’s really all we as fans can ask for at this point. If it fails he will scrap it and try again.

One other good thing: according to the behind the scenes stories we've read since Rhule was fired, Tepper was at least beginning to get the idea that Rhule was a mistake after just the first season.

He held off on firing him until later, but at least he had a clue.

[Basbear]

I like there are barely any 40-50ish guys.....You are either a 30 year protege or some proven SB/winning 60-70 aged man...