PFF - What would it take for Panthers to trade up for #1 pick

[AggieLean]

I’m good with that.

Like that we’d only have to give up one 2nd round pick this year, and after that, we’d only be out of 1st rd picks until 25. We could still build a team with a trade like this. 

[pantherj]

Imagine Fitt whiffs on that QB pick, and then we have no 1st in 2024/2025, and good free agent QBs don't want to come here. Can't do that.

[Luciu5]

5 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

No way. Young and/or Stroud could end up being busts. One thing is for sure, we would suck for all years of their rookie contract with no first round pick until 2026.  This type of move only makes sense when you have an Andrew Luck or Trevor Lawrence type qb coming out. 

We've sucked for the past how many years? What difference does it make? At BEST we will be mediocre with any other possible options. Even with Rodgers, we're likely one and done in the playoffs every year. If Super Bowl is the goal, you do this deal.

If Andrew Luck or Lawrence is on the board, nobody is trading out the #1 spot. It would take -extreme- luck to be in a position to trade up to #1 pick, the #1 pick be available to be traded, AND generational QB available. It's not likely to happen in our lifetimes.

Edited February 21, 2023 by Luciu5

[pantherj]

let's say we take AR and he poops the bed, fine, go get another top prospect in 2024. Not the end of the world. But if we take CJ number one overall, then he has to pan out or we're bad until at least 2027.

[Luciu5]

3 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Imagine Fitt whiffs on that QB pick, and then we have no 1st in 2024/2025, and good free agent QBs don't want to come here. Can't do that.

Fitt whiffs, he's out of a job.

 

Just now, pantherj said:

let's say we take AR and he poops the bed, fine, go get another top prospect in 2024. Not the end of the world. But if we take CJ number one overall, then he has to pan out or we're bad until at least 2027.

I agree with this. BUUUT, I'm not against going to 1 if our FO sees a franchise QB in this draft. I trust them to do their jobs and be certain. And if not, they all get fired. So we either celebrate the wins or celebrate the house cleaning. Win, win! Amirite?

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

We've sucked for the past how many years?

Making trades like this gives you a really good shot of staying that way.

Edited February 21, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[Luciu5]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Making trades like this gives you a really good shot of staying that way.

49ers disagree. They probably aren't going to the super bowl anytime soon....but they dont' suck.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Luciu5 said:

49ers disagree. They probably aren't going to the super bowl anytime soon....but they dont' suck.

How's the guy they traded up for doing?

If they had it to do over, you think they'd do it again?

Edited February 21, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[pantherj]

1 minute ago, Luciu5 said:

Fitt whiffs, he's out of a job.

 

I agree with this. BUUUT, I'm not against going to 1 if our FO sees a franchise QB in this draft. I trust them to do their jobs and be certain. And if not, they all get fired. So we either celebrate the wins or celebrate the house cleaning. Win, win! Amirite?

Celebration is not really the word that would come to mind when the reality set in that CJ was a bust. I do think Fitt would be fired at that point (I hope), but we'd be suffering for a long time. This comes down to how risk adverse a person you are as to how you see this situation.

[Wundrbread33]

1 minute ago, Luciu5 said:

49ers disagree. They probably aren't going to the super bowl anytime soon....but they dont' suck.

Much better overall talent on that roster. Already had success with a game manager type QB. 
 

QB was literally the last piece. Look at how good that team is with Jimmy G and Brock. 
 

If they had an all pro talent QB they’d be more unstoppable than they already were. 

[Panther'sBigD]

Hell Naw. 

[LinvilleGorge]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

How's the guy they traded up for doing?

If they had it to do over, you think they'd do it again?

I think they would've probably stuck to their guns and drafted Mac Jones like they likely originally planned to do. They were doing really well until their wish.com version got hurt.

[weyco2000]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Making trades like this gives you a really good shot of staying that way.

Yep and imagine the Bears using our #1 overall pick next year to draft Williams or Maye… brutal!!

[Jay Roosevelt]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There's a line between bold and stupid.

This trade proposal crosses that line at high speed and keeps right on rolling

Ok, let's just re-sign Sam Darnold and call it a day.