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Bears have been approached by multiple teams for #1 Pick and are leaning towards trading the pick away per Adam Schefter

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6 minutes ago, Asaria said:

Frankly don't care what the "Math" says and I'm tired of first round picks in all honesty. Did Luke ever lead us to a ring?(Bless his soul), did Jordan Gross ever lead us to a ring? Did Vernon Butler ever lead us to a ring? The answer is NO.

I'm ready to trade up in the draft, 3-4 first round picks doesn't matter to me. I'm tired of the same sh*t every year, and if it doesn't work, then f*ck it, we tried atleast.

It's the same thing over and over.  People don't realize these elite prospects like Luck/Lawrence/Burrow are never going to be available via trade because teams never trade out of those picks.  We are going to have to take a gamble on one at some point.  We have hired a strong staff that can really deep dive into these prospects to see if there is one they can develop or not.  I'm with you though, I am ready to take a chance on a prospect possibly even trading up if needed.

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16 minutes ago, Asaria said:

Frankly don't care what the "Math" says and I'm tired of first round picks in all honesty. Did Luke ever lead us to a ring?(Bless his soul), did Jordan Gross ever lead us to a ring? Did Vernon Butler ever lead us to a ring? The answer is NO.

I'm ready to trade up in the draft, 3-4 first round picks doesn't matter to me. I'm tired of the same sh*t every year, and if it doesn't work, then f*ck it, we tried atleast.

We also have never had an offensive minded coach either. I don't need to see us spend a multitude of picks yet to go get a QB. I'm willing to give this coaching staff more than a couple of months to evaluate and find the right QB pick. It could be that they don't think there is one worth trading up to get. Maybe there is. I'm willing to finally allow offensive minded people make some decisions instead of a defensive HC and a wanna be cheerleader.

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47 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D. said:

When the Panthers are finally able to pick at #9... 

All 4 top QBs (Young, Stroud, Levis, Anderson) will be gone
All top D-Lineman (Carter, Anderson, Murphy) gone
All top Defensive Backs (Branch, Witherspoon, Gonzalez)... That is right, also gone
All Wr/TE/RB (Johnston, Flowers, Mayer, Robinson, Addison) gone!

Our only option is to Ricky Williams this thing yall. 

4 qbs have never been drafted in the top 8 in the history of the nfl draft.  Someone always drops.   

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2 hours ago, Cullenator said:

If we had ended up with a top 3 pick and moving to #1 wasnt going to  cost us significantly I wouldnt have made the comment.

 

But if we have to give up 3 1s to get that first choice then they all do.  They are all just as capable of turning into a Leaf, Marinovich, or Russel. 

Im a long way from the smartest football guy around here but the idea of trading years worth of firsts seems wrong-headed when it doesnt come with a guarantee.

So you wait until you suck to get a QB??

How long is that going to be..

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2 hours ago, WUnderhill said:

If we don’t get a QB then this rockstar coaching staff is not being utilized to its full potential. We have the guys in place to develop a franchise QB right now. If we wanted to lower the cost of drafting our QB, the time to do it was during last season. Trading Burns could have given us extra ammo. Going 5-3 to end the season did us no favors.

And you're also cutting the nuts off this 'rockstar coaching staff' by telling them they don't have a first round pick for the next three years.

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43 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It's the same thing over and over.  People don't realize these elite prospects like Luck/Lawrence/Burrow are never going to be available via trade because teams never trade out of those picks.  We are going to have to take a gamble on one at some point.  We have hired a strong staff that can really deep dive into these prospects to see if there is one they can develop or not.  I'm with you though, I am ready to take a chance on a prospect possibly even trading up if needed.

So the elite prospects aren't there... and your response is to trade three years worth of first round picks for a non-elite prospect?

Sounds sensible.

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1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

So the elite prospects aren't there... and your response is to trade three years worth of first round picks for a non-elite prospect?

Sounds sensible.

Who said trade 3 years worth of firsts?  I'm ok with moving up to get a guy our staff in confident in.  It doesn't have to be up to pick one, but I'm not against using a future pick to grab our guy if he is there to be had.  Hell the Bills did it with Allen and the Chiefs did with Mahomes.  Neither were "elite" prospects.  If you are trading up for a QB that is available then he isn't an "elite" prospect because those go 1/2 and aren't available via trade.  However, there are several with elite traits that our staff can develop.

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If Reich/Fitts/etc. like either Stroud or Young just give up the picks and make the trade. Our roster with a few shrewd FA additions and a highly touted rookie QB would honestly be better than any Reich had in Indy except for the 1 year he had with Luck. I'd be feeling extremely good about this season if we can pull that off.

 

If they don't love these prospects then don't force it, we can always trade up for a QB next year if we prefer. But we just can't be afraid to trade picks for a top QB in the draft. Done with the retreads

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