DARNOLD

[ForJimmy]

21 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I'm going to laugh so hard I might piss myself if the Panthers sign Sam Darnold back.

They are going to give Darnold a large contract and draft Levis while the Huddle explodes.

[Jon Snow]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

They are going to give Darnold a large contract and draft Levis while the Huddle explodes.

That thought did cross my mind but wasn't going to toss that grenade just yet.

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

That thought did cross my mind but wasn't going to toss that grenade just yet.

[Basbear]

3 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I'm going to laugh so hard I might piss myself if the Panthers sign Sam Darnold back.

Each passing day, I feel its going to happen.....

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, Inyo said:

prior to that Saints game, though, Sam had engineered the NFL's most efficient passing offense. As not a few remarked at time: Bet you didn't have that on your bingo card.

But remember: It was a win, nevertheless, thanks to some tremendous defense and an effective rushing game. Sam came alive when needed, hitting that decisive 20 yard pass to set up the game winning field goal. Great road victory for the Panthers against a determined opponent.

The man was outplayed by an aging Andy Dalton lol. Some people really live for trying to polish not just mediocrity but horrific QB play. Man this team needs a real franchise quarterback and someone who will shake things up and drive out this pitiful culture.

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Each passing day, I feel its going to happen.....

I cannot decide what would shock the most, them bring him back or not bringing him back.  The reactions here will be priceless if they do. 

[Basbear]

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I cannot decide what would shock the most, them bring him back or not bringing him back.  The reactions here will be priceless if they do. 

Ive changed some after the geno, jones, and carr deals...... now its not so bad for a lower 5-10(ugh) type of deal.....

 

[Basbear]

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Im expecting Jimmy G because that is the Tepper thing to do.

 

Also expect a non QB at #9 because we aren't trading up.

 

We will try this again next year. It's the Panthers way...

JimmyG is heavy rumored to be in either the texans or raiders plans. 

[Bear Hands]

4 hours ago, Inyo said:

Just wondering. Is the poster equating QBR with passer rating, or total QBR (invented by ESPN, unveiled in 2011)? They're different statistical measurements, of course.

In the "modern passing era" (AKA, post 1990), Rex Grossman of the Bears has the lowest NFL passer rating in a win (1.3 versus the Vikings in 2006). Sam is in second place on that list--second lowest passer rating in a winning game at 2.8. Before 1990, though, there are actually eight quarterbacks who achieved victories with--wait for it--a passer rating of of zero.

Note that this is based on passer rating--not total QBR.  Darnold's total QBR in that Saints game was 11.1. Somebody with access to ESPN's total QBR library could determine if that's the lowest winning total QBR in NFL history (based on the last 12 years, only).

So, here's the thing. A philosophical query: Would the  poster rather have a Panthers quarterback achieve the 2nd highest passer rating in league history in a loss, or the second lowest passer rating in NFL history in a victory?

Of course, fantasy football aficionados would likely prefer the former scenario, one must allow. And if you're looking merely to save face as a fan of a franchise, you probably don't want your quarterback looking so incompetent, even in a win; prior to that Saints game, though, Sam had engineered the NFL's most efficient passing offense. As not a few remarked at time: Bet you didn't have that on your bingo card.

But remember: It was a win, nevertheless, thanks to some tremendous defense and an effective rushing game. Sam came alive when needed, hitting that decisive 20 yard pass to set up the game winning field goal. Great road victory for the Panthers against a determined opponent.

That is a lot from very little and a passing gag. Yikes

[Wundrbread33]

On 3/8/2023 at 7:42 AM, frankw said:

So does Jameis. Doesn't mean we need to sign either. And Darnold has already told you guys the deal you don't listen. QB is just a job to him. He is not concerned about going to the hall of fame or being a Super Bowl winning quarterback. You can hype his physical tools all you want. Doesn't mean anything if he doesn’t want to be great.

Why did you make this up? You were asked for a source, and your response wasn’t a source, but your interpretation of his practice routines. 
 

There’s plenty of evidence he isn’t a good QB without having to create another narrative out of thin air (unless you have an actual source).

[frankw]

28 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

Why did you make this up? You were asked for a source, and your response wasn’t a source, but your interpretation of his practice routines. 
 

There’s plenty of evidence he isn’t a good QB without having to create another narrative out of thin air (unless you have an actual source).

He's the same flawed quarterback he was five years ago with the Jets. He has not developed. You guys want to blame Adam Gase Matt Rhule and whatever other boogeyman you can find when it's ultimately up to Sam to change his habits. Look no further than his last start. Worse than any we've seen with even Jimmy Clausen. You're telling me that guy has been giving it his all to improve and wants to be a hall of famer and win Super Bowls? He had 19 million reasons and many more to get out there and put Baker Mayfield in the rear view in camp and by his own words he could not be bothered. Keep playing the blame game like you owe him something though.

[stratocatter]

You have some kind of syndrome. 

Try the same standards you are putting on this Darnold with the rest of the quarterbacks we have had the last 20 years and see how that works out.

You can find entire off seasons where none of them “could be bothered”. 

[bythenbrs]

22 hours ago, frankw said:

He's the same flawed quarterback he was five years ago with the Jets. He has not developed. You guys want to blame Adam Gase Matt Rhule and whatever other boogeyman you can find when it's ultimately up to Sam to change his habits. Look no further than his last start. Worse than any we've seen with even Jimmy Clausen. You're telling me that guy has been giving it his all to improve and wants to be a hall of famer and win Super Bowls? He had 19 million reasons and many more to get out there and put Baker Mayfield in the rear view in camp and by his own words he could not be bothered. Keep playing the blame game like you owe him something though.

So, no source?

[frankw]

13 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

So, no source?

Let me help you.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DarnSa00.htm

He couldn't beat out Mayfield in camp and he had the lowest completion percentage since his rookie year.

Some of you just can't help but make excuses for the worst QB's in our history