Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB

TheSpecialJuan

By TheSpecialJuan,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

CPF4LIFE Grand Master

CPF4LIFE

Posted
Posted
57 minutes ago, Riverboat Ron said:

Honestly #3 is the magic number. I don’t see someone paying the price for #1. #3 gets you the leftovers after Houston picks either Young, Stroud, Richardson or Levis. 

If you are gonna trade up like this,  leftovers shouldn't be the goal. You get the guy you want the most.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bear Hands Grand Master

Bear Hands

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Multiple 1sts gives me heavy pause. But that's likely what it would take.

Honestly, given how much Fitt wheels and deals, we could end up with a 1st by the time 2025 rolls around through other means. 

And not even factoring any future prospects of trading back to net more picks, there's so much you can do to finagle and target who you want between now and 2024/25.  

And if we nail this, these future picks are towards the end of the rounds.  I think we're just so used to these top 10 picks now that our perception of R1 incremental value is skewed compared to fans of the teams that don't mind trading them a lot (Philly, LAR, BAL, etc.)    

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ncfan Grand Master

ncfan

Posted
Posted (edited)
25 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Multiple 1sts gives me heavy pause. But that's likely what it would take.

There’s not a dam team in the league that’d say I’ll take 31st rd picks over a Joe Burrow.  Especially if they didn’t have a top 10 QB

 

im doing this no questions asked 

that mock was a dream scenario 

Edited by ncfan
  • Beer 1
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Rags Mentor

Rags

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, SOJA said:

Again we come back to Pick 5 making a lot of sense. 

Anderson and Carter will go in the first 4 picks to Chicago/Arizona in some order

Houston and Indy will both take QBs. my prediction is Young and Levis.

Seattle makes too much sense. hx with the FO. Seattle will want to trade down as they miss out on elite talent but can still take a DE at 9. We take Stroud. 

Carter might get a bit of the Tunsil effect, personally I'd feel safer. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
MHS831 Grand Master

MHS831

Posted
Posted
58 minutes ago, Riverboat Ron said:

Honestly #3 is the magic number. I don’t see someone paying the price for #1. #3 gets you the leftovers after Houston picks either Young, Stroud, Richardson or Levis. 

I see the math behind that and I think that is what I might do--but I see a few problems that may be only in my head or may not be deal breakers.

1. Fitterer said, if your guy is there, you go get him, but you better be sure about it.  (paraphrased) Does that apply to all three of the QBs you mentioned?  If so, yes, trade with the Cardinals and take AR-15 (likely).  But if you love Stroud and Young, you have to move to #1.  We know the Bears are going to trade out, and Stroud or Young is likely the target.  (My guess?  Indy).  The Texans will take the other one, leaving AR-15 as the only QB on the board. 

2. Do you think Reich and McCown have the experience, knowledge, and skill sets to coach a player like AR-15?  I don't know--I would think they would be more comfortable with Young and then Stroud. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
MHS831 Grand Master

MHS831

Posted
Posted
53 minutes ago, ncfan said:

We all knew McCown Loved Stroud before he even took the job.  All you have to do is watch his video on Him with Josh Norris.

Reich also said in his presser last week, he’s started sitting down and talking QBs with McCown.

There is some top notched detective work going on in this thread..>Good stuff!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
13 minutes ago, ncfan said:

There’s not a dam team in the league that’d say I’ll take 31st rd picks over a Joe Burrow.  Especially if they didn’t have a top 10 QB

 

im doing this no questions asked 

that mock was a dream scenario 

Agreed. But it's not for Joe Burrow. It's for a complete NFL unknown you're hoping like hell you're right about. I'm not opposed to it. I just acknowledge what a massive risk and roll of the dice it would be.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Riverboat Ron said:

Honestly #3 is the magic number. I don’t see someone paying the price for #1. #3 gets you the leftovers after Houston picks either Young, Stroud, Richardson or Levis. 

Except the last time #3 got traded the Niners basically gave up #1 overall value for it. The Cardinals would look to duplicate that type of haul knowing it's be for a QB.

 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Captain Morgan
      T-Mac or Nalo

      By Captain Morgan · Posted

      or you could call him Bomanicious   I'm going with King Tet
    • TheSpecialJuan
      Ex-Panthers great Steve Smith sued under 'homewrecker law' for alleged affair.

      By TheSpecialJuan · Posted

      The great Steve Smith 
    • Seltzer
      Travis Hunter on T-Mac

      By Seltzer · Posted

      T-Mac put up good numbers for 3 consecutive seasons on teams without a good QB situation, and in an environment where T-Mac got game planned against weekly and still performed. Teams threw all kinds of defensive coverages against T-Mac, and he still found ways week in and week out to contribute at a high level. XL was basically a 1-year wonder. Doesn't mean he cant be great (and I think him & T-Mac will compliment each other well), but i think T-Mac is the more polished of the 2 right now. This certainly isn't a perfect comparison, but I hope XL & T-Mac can approximate what we had with Smitty & Moose (Although i think T-Macs ceiling is higher than Moose and XLs ceiling is lower than Smitty). Both those guys were multiple Pro Bowlers and even All-Pro. T-Mac & XL have a long way to go to actually being comparable, but the potential is there. And regardless of how this season turns out, you can actually see a strategic plan being executed. On paper, I think this offensive roster has as much talent as any Panthers team since 2017. Defense is still a question mark, and it's unrealistic to think we will go from being historically bad to great in 1 year, but based on historical and statistical data, we stand a much better chance of turning the defense around in 1 year than the offense. I still want us to potentially add at S, CB, and ILB, but this roster is exponentially better than the roster heading into the 2023 season. Which still begs the question of how & why the team thought they were in a good position to trade all the way up. Regardless, it's in the past, and while the past 2 years have mostly sucked, we are strategically in a much better position than we have been in years. This is easily the best WR group since 2020 IMO (Moore, Anderson, Samuel). I'm super excited about what T-Mac can bring to this offense and team, and I'm really hoping we continue to build off where we ended last year offensively, and hopefully we've made enough improvements on defense to be competitive. I've also been vocal for the most part in supporting BY9. He came into an awful situation and to a team that was in no position to make such a trade.   Still, this is Year 3. And this is a team that IMHO has both the talent & depth on offense to score and score a lot. Most QBs that ever amount to anything are competing by Year 3. There are no excuses for the offense not to perform. I think BY9 knows full well what's riding on this year in terms of his long term future.  And I think T-Mac is a massive piece in helping Bryce and the team get over the hump and back into playoff contention.  
×
×
  • Create New...