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Brian Burns Extension possibility

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PootieNunu Grand Master

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Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

I would love to see this defense without Burns. We would last 5 weeks before you all begging for him to come back.

 

Burns is a pass rusher people. Look at his long rangy body he's not built to stop the run. Give him credit for what he is good at getting after the QB.

I said he was "good" at getting after the QB, he just isnt great. Its whatever for me, he was hyped coming out of college and he still seems like the same guy he was 4 years ago to me. I had hoped he would round out his game but it doesnt look like it. 

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Contract wise look for something around 25-29m plus a season, 'Watt makes 28m a season" so the top would be 29m a season I'd think. 

 

Over 4 or 5 years with a 36m signing bonus and full guarantees around 82m total. 

 

I'm gonna go with something like the below for Burns. 

 

5 years 142.5m dollars, 36m signing bonus and 80.5m fully guaranteed.  

 

Years 1-3 base salary is fully guaranteed, remaining guaranteed at signing in a roster bonus in year 4. 

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Just now, carpanfan96 said:

No what I meant is that based on polls and other data collected, he was at the beginning of last season considered a top ten edge player. 

I guess edge rushers are like QBs then, Cousins and Carr could be considered top 10 for their position as well....

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1 hour ago, razorwolf said:

Just a thrown out ideal for a extension:

4yr/$76.5M w/$45M guaranteed!

Its a little under average contract today, but could be a reasonable contract for both parties!

Seriously dude…. Even Madden would reject such a offer

the moment we refused the Rams trade for Burns, it meant Burns agent has all the leverage. This is a TJ Watt level deal

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34 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Might as well trade him if you don't view him as a long term piece.smh

 

I will say it again if you don't want elite players then just move on because they are all expensive. 

Burns is not elite.  Not a single statistical category shows him as elite.  
 

There is nothing wrong with using the franchise tag on a player you don’t want to extend long term yet.  NFLPA agreed to it.  

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44 minutes ago, stan786 said:

If we get out under 4 years 100 million it’s a giant win. I imagine he’ll be pushing for Watt money and we’ll try and get him in closer to the Crosby/Chubb deals.

I’d pay him regardless, he’s a legit top tier pass rusher and he’s a lot more valuable in NFL circles than this board seems to value him at.

You can’t compare him to Watt, and say he’s going to request that type of money. Burns sack average is 9.5! Watt sack average is 12.6, but he also had a season of 22.5 sacks! Crosby money the most likely contract that Burns will get!

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1 hour ago, razorwolf said:

Just a thrown out ideal for a extension:

4yr/$76.5M w/$45M guaranteed!

Its a little under average contract today, but could be a reasonable contract for both parties!

With a 5% flat income tax, you'd think we could offer slightly less than teams in New York, Illinois, California, etc. 

I'm shocked at the number of players who take jobs in California and Washington for the same pay as a state like Florida. Dudes need financial management planners on speed dial during free agency.

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1 minute ago, CPcavedweller said:

With a 5% flat income tax, you'd think we could offer slightly less than teams in New York, Illinois, California, etc. 

I'm shocked at the number of players who take jobs in California and Washington for the same pay as a state like Florida. Dudes need financial management planners on speed dial during free agency.

When Gettleman was our manager he made that argument to the players and talked about it in the press.

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