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More Smoke? Adam Schefter: CAR traded for Young, then checked other QBs. They did not bridge gap.


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3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

My point is it’s not some colossal mistake, it’s backed by film and analytics that the professionals use. I trust Reich’s opinion over people on a random message board.

That’s nice and I’m happy for you.  These same people you trust make bad decisions often about players. Young is a midget and it will prove to be a mistake. He’s certainly a smart player, but he’s simply small and no one can correct that. 

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This is no smokescreen. I think they were sincere about wanting the fans at the draft party to know who was on the way so they wouldn’t have a mixed reaction to it. I think it’s also a nice little get back at Houston for how they played it with Watson. Texans will say Stroud was their guy at 1 and they should, but bell to bell this year it was Young. 

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This will be a disaster if true. A tiny QB with a mediocre, at best, arm. Great kid. Great attitude. Quick brain. He will have a much smaller margin of error than he had in college. The results will reflect that. His lack of athleticism, arm strength, size, and inability to play from under center will not be overcome by processing speed, brain power, and/or attitude. 
 

If drafted by the Panthers, I hope that I am wrong. I do not think I will be though. I hope that this is part of a smokescreen. It’s getting a tad bit harder to believe that though as the draft gets closer. 

 

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1 minute ago, SameDamnThing said:

This is no smokescreen. I think they were sincere about wanting the fans at the draft party to know who was on the way so they wouldn’t have a mixed reaction to it. I think it’s also a nice little get back at Houston for how they played it with Watson. Texans will say Stroud was their guy at 1 and they should, but bell to bell this year it was Young. 

Texans will get the last laugh.  

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The was article on NFL.com where they plugged Young’s intangibles into a model… not hight or weight but his playing intangibles and there was zero QB who made it in NFL with his playing style.  The model predicted he needs an amazing supporting cast to succeed in NFL.  I posted that article weeks ago and got there responses from Young supporters.

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Man some people on here sound legit angry that it might be Bryce lol. I get that he might not be your first choice and the height/weight criticisms are valid but some of the vitriol is insane to me. 
 

Any of these guys could bust, and any of them could be superstars. We just gotta hope that the guy we choose is a superstar. 

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8 minutes ago, ickmule said:

That’s nice and I’m happy for you.  These same people you trust make bad decisions often about players. Young is a midget and it will prove to be a mistake. He’s certainly a smart player, but he’s simply small and no one can correct that. 

I get it, you don’t like the player. Whining about it and calling him names doesn’t change the way the NFL views him. He is a top prospect at a premium position and our team is very interested in drafting him at 1.

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8 minutes ago, ickmule said:

That’s nice and I’m happy for you.  These same people you trust make bad decisions often about players. Young is a midget and it will prove to be a mistake. He’s certainly a smart player, but he’s simply small and no one can correct that. 

I'm in France next week, so I'm away from the internet anyway, but I think I need to start avoiding the Draft now for my own sanity.

I feel like I'm living in an alternate reality when everyone is praising a QB that has a tiny margin for failure in the NFL due to his physical limitations. 

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12 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

What about NFL models?  Do you trust those?

I just trust the people who have played at this level, coached at this level, and scouted at this level. I don’t trust a disgruntled fan who is upset he isn’t getting the player he wants. I’m just saying if we are comfortable drafting Young then so am I. You guys getting all upset about that are just as bad as the Young fan boys. 

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