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Gerry Green

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5 minutes ago, stan786 said:

I'll never understand how Stroud got elevated to a bullet proof prospect by so many on this board. He's got plenty of issues that are a risk to take, I understand liking him more but acting like he isnt a flawed prospect is just so confusing.

All the QBs have flaws, its more of a pick your poison type draft.

 

Except the ONLY flaw folks find in CJ is that he isn't the greatest under pressure. But he is an assassin in the pocket. 

 

Whereas Bryce can't play from the pocket, and runs around until he finds a lane. 

 

I'll take the guy that can carve you up from the pocket. Oh, and maybe last 10 years longer.

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8 minutes ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

I'm not beating anything just refuting he can only lock onto 1 person..all qbs have stuff that needs to be coached but I'd rather have someone that can see over the line and stand tall then have to run around like Russell Wilson did all those years

You're not beating anything? 😂

Every post you make is knocking Young and touting Stroud.

Get it out of your system between now and Thursday because you won't be detailing every thread with Stroud hugging after the draft.

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2 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

So what I'm hearing is; CJ gets the ball out because of scheme and talent.

 

Bryce doesn't get the ball out because of a lack of scheme and talent.

 

Seems legit.

Bryce had to improvise more because of talent In 2022, which he was just as successful with.

In 2021 he got the ball out plenty fast because he had talent giving him time and receivers that got open.

CJ Stroud was in a very friendly QB scheme with lot of talent and was able to get the ball out fast, CJ has demonstrated when that wasn’t possible he got statistically worse and didn’t have the same success.

The difference here is Bryce was successful when he had to improvise where as CJ was demonstratively less successful.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

You're not beating anything? 😂

Every post you make is knocking Young and touting Stroud.

Get it out of your system between now and Thursday because you won't be detailing every thread with Stroud hugging after the draft.

I feel a Chuck level meltdown coming Thursday night

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2 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

Except the ONLY flaw folks find in CJ is that he isn't the greatest under pressure. But he is an assassin in the pocket. 

 

Whereas Bryce can't play from the pocket, and runs around until he finds a lane. 

 

I'll take the guy that can carve you up from the pocket. Oh, and maybe last 10 years longer.

Bryce can’t play from the pocket? Have you watched 0 film on Bryce? Because that’s a loony tunes take.

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1 minute ago, ncfan said:

One played in a QB friendly system with a top 10 OL where both OTs will be going top 40 in the draft while also throwing to 5 WRs who did or will go top 15 in Their draft.

 

Vs a guy coming from a NFL system playing under a NFL OC/QB coach.  With a OL that wasn’t even top 100 Nationally with a bit so good WR group.

 

So if a QB is successful, it must be his supporting cast? Whatever happened to raise the talent around you? 

 

I guess I should have figured it would be the same ol same ol. CJ has talent around him in a QB freindly system. Bryce did it all on his own. 

 

God forbid we take Bryce. He'd better walk on water. Cuz it's the only way he lasts until that second contract. 

 

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11 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

So what I'm hearing is; CJ gets the ball out because of scheme and talent.

 

Bryce doesn't get the ball out because of a lack of scheme and talent.

 

Seems legit.

Scheme is a big part. If I remember correctly PJ Walker had the quickest release time of all QBs during his run of starts last year. Is that because he's a great QB with poise and calmness in the pocket or because they set it up for him to get the ball out quickly?

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