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Official NFL 2023 Draft Discussion


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1 minute ago, klumme said:

Well they still have 20 picks in 2023 and 2024 draft including a 1st a 2nd two 3rds and four 4ths. etc

Totally agree. What they gave up for Anderson is akin to Tepper throwing money at creating Charlotte FC. Total luxury that makes him looks like a genius if it works, and if it doesn't, no worries since they used some of their excess anyway and won't miss it as much as if they were poorer.

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23 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Nah someone on here told me first round QBs don’t win championships. They are screwed. 

This is draft talk. Nothing to do with the success of 1st round QBs. The Texans just took the draft spotlight away from the Panthers and Young was the point.

I already put out my view on how overrated the QBs are in this draft. They would have never fallen to the 2nd round, but I would have considered drafting them in the 2nd round. There is no QB in this draft who should have been taken in the 1st round. I didn't think Cam Newton should have been taken in the 1st round and I was right. I expect multiple conference championship appearances and at least 5 to 9 career playoff wins from a 1st round QB. I require 10 years and 1 SB championship from a successful 1st round QB. Otherwise, they were worth no more than a 2nd round pick.

If you have lower standards for using a 1st round pick on a QB and wasting draft capital to build a roster, be my guest and enjoy a few playoff wins a QB who lasts no more than 8 seasons and maybe one SB loss.

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