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So let’s talk about Levis

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The Athletic's Dane Brugler believes the Titans will draft Kentucky QB Will Levis in the second round of the 2023 NFL Draft. 

Levis, who entered Thursday night's opening round as a near-lock to go in the first five picks, slid out of the first round, perhaps due to lingering concerns over a toe injury that may or may not require surgery. The Titans are a good bet to take a quarterback in this draft with Ryan Tannehill entering his age-35 season and showing signs of decline in 2022. "The Titans did extensive work on the Kentucky quarterback, and though they felt No. 11 was too rich, the second round would be a nice landing spot," Brugler said. Levis would likely start 2023 as a backup unless the Titans deal Tannehill in the interim. 

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Firstly, let’s say it absolutely sucks for the kid to be invited to this and then not get picked. That must feel absolutely dreadful once you see 3 QBs go in the first four picks and you’re projected next he probably thought he would be drafted in the 15ish area. 
 

That being said, he should go fairly quickly in round 2. And I know folks are thinking maybe Hooker jumps him but both of them suffer from pretty damning flaws. Both are older guys so from a physical and mental standpoint they should be further ahead of the other guys but they aren’t. 
 

The tape Levis chose to put on by playing hurt, hurt. It wasn’t good this year. Hooker was hurt so bad he couldn’t finish the season. So you go back to last season to find positive Levis tape and it’s good. But it’s not terrific. 
 

Now flip on Hookers tape and also know he’s like 25 already and watch their offense. Folks tried to clown CJ for throwing to wide open receivers and there’s plenty of tape of him throwing them open. 
 

Side bar: Right now folks are very high on Marvin Harrison but he’s the perfect candidate to drop come draft time. He’s an amazing pass catcher in college but take note most of his catches have minimal separation in college. A WR going to 5 needs to be able to run away from most guys too. His tape didn’t show it this year. 
 

Watch highlights of Hooker and it’s the Justin Fields tape. He locks onto the first guy and waits because at some point they will separate and more often than not they get the time it throw it. The difference is Justin was like 4 years younger going into his draft, had a much stronger arm, and right now he looks like a top 3 runner at QB in the entire league. Hooker doesn’t have those same traits. He was always going to be a round 2 or 3 guy in this class that had high end talent and then a massive gap to the lower guys. Levis should be the next one off the board because he does have the physical tools for the nfl. Hooker might be the next one after that. 

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3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

The Athletic's Dane Brugler believes the Titans will draft Kentucky QB Will Levis in the second round of the 2023 NFL Draft. 

Levis, who entered Thursday night's opening round as a near-lock to go in the first five picks, slid out of the first round, perhaps due to lingering concerns over a toe injury that may or may not require surgery. The Titans are a good bet to take a quarterback in this draft with Ryan Tannehill entering his age-35 season and showing signs of decline in 2022. "The Titans did extensive work on the Kentucky quarterback, and though they felt No. 11 was too rich, the second round would be a nice landing spot," Brugler said. Levis would likely start 2023 as a backup unless the Titans deal Tannehill in the interim. 

Going to the well of drafting a project QB in the middle rounds once again I see. I wonder if they will try to flip Malik. Maybe we can offer a 1:1 swap of Malik for Matt since he’s not happy here and both guys get a fresh start. 

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This reminds me of the way Jimmy Clausen "fell."  If you recall, The Chiefs and Vikings wanted a QB and both passed on Clausen in round 1.  Then they passed on him in Round 2.  Meanwhile, Hurney was trying to trade up in the time between the first and second rounds, hoping to move up (with the Rams, I think) to get Clausen, but the Rams would not deal.  This was the draft that was pure Hurney because Fox was going into his lame duck year and everyone knew it.  He was not involved in the Draft.  So Marty is giddy when Clausen falls into the 40s and he grabs him.  He then bites on a bluff by the Colts who leaked that they were going to take Armanti Edwards in the third round--so he MOVED UP to get him.

 

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1 minute ago, Varking said:

Going to the well of drafting a project QB in the middle rounds once again I see. I wonder if they will try to flip Malik. Maybe we can offer a 1:1 swap of Malik for Matt since he’s not happy here and both guys get a fresh start. 

Early 2nd round isnt "middle round" ... that is still early round. Drafting Levis at that spot isnt a reach by any means... it's actually a steal if you go by the data they were sharing last night. thre was less than .2% chance that WL fell out of the first round...  Levis would have gotten drafted last night if it wasnt the texans who traded up to the 3rd pick. That changed the whole landscape of the draft. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

It's a bit early to dunk on Levis since not only has he not played, he's not even been drafted yet. I'm very glad he's not the No. 1 pick, but to say you were proven right before his career has begun is not quite valid.

Nah, you dunk on a guy who eats bananas with the peel still on and looks/acts like the 2nd coming of Todd Marinovich

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If he's still there in the 3rd round I'd pull a Redskins and double dip at QB, especially if we add some more ammo trading down from 39. He's got tools to turn into a high end backup and with Bryce's size/durability concerns, it may not be a terrible idea to invest even a bit more in the most important position in football...

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8 minutes ago, Varking said:

Firstly, let’s say it absolutely sucks for the kid to be invited to this and then not get picked. That must feel absolutely dreadful once you see 3 QBs go in the first four picks and you’re projected next he probably thought he would be drafted in the 15ish area. 
 

That being said, he should go fairly quickly in round 2. And I know folks are thinking maybe Hooker jumps him but both of them suffer from pretty damning flaws. Both are older guys so from a physical and mental standpoint they should be further ahead of the other guys but they aren’t. 
 

The tape Levis chose to put on by playing hurt, hurt. It wasn’t good this year. Hooker was hurt so bad he couldn’t finish the season. So you go back to last season to find positive Levis tape and it’s good. But it’s not terrific. 
 

Now flip on Hookers tape and also know he’s like 25 already and watch their offense. Folks tried to clown CJ for throwing to wide open receivers and there’s plenty of tape of him throwing them open. 
 

Side bar: Right now folks are very high on Marvin Harrison but he’s the perfect candidate to drop come draft time. He’s an amazing pass catcher in college but take note most of his catches have minimal separation in college. A WR going to 5 needs to be able to run away from most guys too. His tape didn’t show it this year. 
 

Watch highlights of Hooker and it’s the Justin Fields tape. He locks onto the first guy and waits because at some point they will separate and more often than not they get the time it throw it. The difference is Justin was like 4 years younger going into his draft, had a much stronger arm, and right now he looks like a top 3 runner at QB in the entire league. Hooker doesn’t have those same traits. He was always going to be a round 2 or 3 guy in this class that had high end talent and then a massive gap to the lower guys. Levis should be the next one off the board because he does have the physical tools for the nfl. Hooker might be the next one after that. 

I really thought Washington or New England might move up for him,

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11 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

is this what the kids call a "shitpost?" 

It's an honest post.

He didn't clear my minimum height / weight requirements for the position. 

Clearly he cleared Fitterer's and Reich's, which is all that ultimately matters.

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