Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Simms top 40 QB's


Jackie Lee
 Share

Recommended Posts

14 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Simms liked (and assuming still does) Stroud because he’s a better passer, same reason I did (past tense). Not because he’s taller. Hope he’s wrong this time. #brycebros

I mean in that whole Bryce segment in the video above he basically talks about the size, that was basically the whole media talking point today after people seeing him under center at rookie camp. He's usually in pads and 5-10 yards behind the line out of shotgun so it is a bit jarring to see

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I mean in that whole Bryce segment in the video above he basically talks about the size, that was basically the whole media talking point today after people seeing him under center at rookie camp. He's usually in pads and 5-10 yards behind the line out of shotgun so it is a bit jarring to see

Ah didn’t watch that, was just going off the previous rankings and comments he made during draft season

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Ah didn’t watch that, was just going off the previous rankings and comments he made during draft season

Eisen, NFL live, Colin, they all brought up the size today. Guess that's going to be the media thing until he starts winning games

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Eisen, NFL live, Colin, they all brought up the size today. Guess that's going to be the media thing until he starts winning games

Yea, I’m sure it’s a pretty stark contrast to see him next to NFL players now, maybe some people just kind of buried their head in the sand a bit because of how good he looked in college.  You’re right though, as soon as he starts putting up the points like he did in college it’ll rubber band the other way and he’ll start getting mega hyped as breaking the mold and creating a new mold.  Seems like our thing these days, leading the revolutions. First with Cam and now breaking that mold we pretty much started with Cam with Bryce heh 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, carpanfan96 said:

Lot of scouts had Richardson #1, CJ #2 and Young #3. 

 

I'll also add that if Young was 6-2 or taller and weighed 230ish, that wouldn't be the case. He'd be a clear cut #1 most years with prototype size 

You’re gonna have to define “lots”. Bryce was the consensus #1 QB on every consensus big board I’ve looked at, and the #1 overall prospect on many. He was the clear cut #1 DESPITE the size. He was the QB teams were trying to trade up to #1 for. Our team scouts, coaches, and FO were unanimous.

People need to drop the narrative that there was no clear top prospect this year because it’s just not true. Just think how good he is to be the consensus top prospect in a good QB class despite his size.

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

What's funny about these Bryce Young doubters is nobody can explain why he is the #1 QB at every level.

 

How is this little guy the #1 QB prospect in high school, the #1 QB prospect in college, and now the #1 pick in the draft?

 

 

He went to Mater Dei and Alabama.  He hasn't exactly been slumming it in obscurity.  He has had a nice football career so far.  None of that matters now.  He needs to put on a show for a new fanbase that didn't go to Mater Dei or Alabama.

  • Pie 2
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

What's funny about these Bryce Young doubters is nobody can explain why he is the #1 QB at every level.

 

How is this little guy the #1 QB prospect in high school, the #1 QB prospect in college, and now the #1 pick in the draft?

 

 

Wizardry.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

31 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

What's funny about these Bryce Young doubters is nobody can explain why he is the #1 QB at every level.

 

How is this little guy the #1 QB prospect in high school, the #1 QB prospect in college, and now the #1 pick in the draft?

 

 

If Caleb Williams was draft eligible he’d go #1 overall over Young. 

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

It does matter. It's why we took him #1 overall. You can't ignore his accomplishments and act like he has accomplished nothing of significance.

 

And please don't include me with your new fanbase. Yall have different expectations than most. Im not about to give him the Cam treatment like you're prepared to do. He's not going to be a superstar overnight but if he is an improvement from what we had the past few years then that's a good start. I believe in this kid I have no doubt he will keep winning on every level. His career so far has proven that he can.

 

Trust the process! 

So as long as he's better than Sam Darnold, that's okay with you?  Yeah, we are definitely on different planets.  

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

So as long as he's better than Sam Darnold, that's okay with you?  Yeah, we are definitely on different planets.  

Rookie year Young being better than peak Darnold would be a nice start. Throw in a better offensive staff and it would make for OROTR. 

  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Exactly.

 

The talent we have and given our weak schedule. If Bryce can play mistake free football and lead us to the playoffs his rookie season I would call that a successful year. 

 

Year 2 is when I realistically expect a big leap like Trevor Lawrence. 

Trevor also had a talent issue his rookie year and a coaching issue.  So his big jump wasn’t just him improving.   It was some of it.  He would have looked better as a rookie if in a place to have success. 
 

Bryce likely is put in a better spot year 1.  

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Why do you say that. What leads you to think that we, as supporters, think his ceiling is 10-12. That's a ridiculous assumption on your part. The Seahawks won the SB with Darnold passing for 25 TD's, 14 Ints with a 99.1 rating for the season.  The Panthers with Young were at 23 TD's, 11 Ints and a 78.8 rating for the season. Not that far off. The problem with all the Young discourse around here is the assumption that the QB is the sole determining factor for a teams success. That just isn't true and it's certainly not how Morgan and Tilis are building the Panthers. 
    • Do we pay based on how many wins or how many games Bryce led us to wins? We've spent quite a bit on defense this year and hopefully they're much improved. If the Panthers do get to 10 wins, but Bryce has another year like last year where he showed up big in a couple, was present in a few, and forgettable in most, do we still pay him 50m per year?  I keep bringing it up because I think it's relevant, but Bryce was outplayed by a 6m per year backup last year. I don't see how it's possible to pay a top tier QB contract to someone who's putting up backup QB production. 
    • I understand tempering expectations, but there are some issues with his points. Walker was a 3 year starter, but Green Bay let him walk and no other team was quick to snatch him up. That says something. Freeling will compete to start. With Hunter, we rotate our linemen and even 5th round pick Cam Jackson played some meaningful snaps last year. Both Brown III and Wharton have underwhelmed since we picked them up. Hunter is a run plugger that we have needed. Hunter will play early, even if he isn't the "starter." Brazzell was described as one of Canales' favorite prospects in the draft and he has a speed element we have been missing. I think Canales is going to have plays drawn up with Brazzell on the field just out of pure excitement. It will be up to Brazzell to prove he can handle it, though. If he can, he will play. As far as our secondary picks, yeah they have to earn their stripes and Evero tends to lean on veterans. So they might take time, but if they can show they can play, they will see the field. Smith-Wade and Ransom did. Sam Hecht simply has to show he can handle the mental side of the NFL game. If he can, he is in a direct competition with Fortner, who's also relatively young, but also on his 3rd NFL team and doesn't have the power profile of Hecht.  I can appreciate that Gantt wants to pour cold water on what was perceived as an impactful draft, but facts are facts.
×
×
  • Create New...