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NFL insider: Brian Burns' extension could be close to Myles Garrett's deal

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4 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Let him Play this year and see if he becomes a more complete player with proper coaching in his new role.  If so, tag him (currently 20M) then make him prove it for a second year.  Then sign long term if he shows he can be a 3 down player effectively 

Players don’t seem to like the tag. Sure it is top 5 money but it is one year and injuries… It occurs to me that a “prove it” 5th year then a “prove it again” tag year will most likely result in a disgruntled player walking to whoever throws him coin regardless of his play OR if he really shows out then the Panthers end up paying WAY more than they can sign him for now.

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3 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

First you downplay his ability. Then you throw out excuses for what you call less than stellar play. Then finish off with a maybe a change of position will make him a better player. 

 

Well, it seems as though we are in for a long season if one of our best players isn't really all that good. Dang, and here I was getting all excited for the year to start.

WTH? lol, it doesnt take much for you to jump off of a cliff does it? Did you miss my first post where I said I like Burns as a pass rusher, but he is not on the same level with the big guns at the position.

He was supposed to develop since we drafted him but the improvement has been marginal. Hopefully the new staff can get the most out of him, as the last idiots had him dropping in coverage on a regular basis. 

I am excited for the season to start as well, and I hope it is not a long season as we have had too many of those these past few years....

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1 minute ago, KillerKat said:

panthers fans: We need another DE opposite of Burns!

Also panthers fans: Burns can gtfo!

 

There's a whole lot of folks who wanted him traded.

 

There's a whole lot of folks who don't want to pay him.

 

There's a whole lot of folks who believe he is too valuable to *** around with. Pay the man.

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2 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

First you downplay his ability. Then you throw out excuses for what you call less than stellar play. Then finish off with a maybe a change of position will make him a better player. 

 

Well, it seems as though we are in for a long season if one of our best players isn't really all that good. Dang, and here I was getting all excited for the year to start.

He is a very good pass rusher.  Extremely talented.  He is however still a liability in the running game.   Pootie has a point.  If he will sign for something around the terms of the Chubb deal do it and don’t think twice.  If he wants to break a record type contract then it becomes problematic.   

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Garrett and Bosa both signed their contracts in 2020. With the steadily rising cap, figuring something near that ballpark is a realistic expectation. I don't think mimicking Garrett's contract 3 years later is at all unreasonable. If that's the ceiling on contract talks, we should be taking a sigh of relief.  

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3 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

There's a whole lot of folks who wanted him traded.

 

There's a whole lot of folks who don't want to pay him.

 

There's a whole lot of folks who believe he is too valuable to *** around with. Pay the man.

He should have been traded but that ship has sailed.   I haven’t read anyone on here saying he shouldn’t get a fair deal.  He deserves that.  There are however a few people yourself included that are okay with giving him a mega deal.   And he ain’t worth that.   

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He is a very good pass rusher.  Extremely talented.  He is however still a liability in the running game.   Pootie has a point.  If he will sign for something around the terms of the Chubb deal do it and don’t think twice.  If he wants to break a record type contract then it becomes problematic.   

 

If Brian was as one dimensional as some would have you believe. He wouldn't be a 3 down Edge. He would be a situational pass rusher.

 

He is going to get top 10 money. And he will more than likely earn every penny.

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1 minute ago, Gerry Green said:

 

If Brian was as one dimensional as some would have you believe. He wouldn't be a 3 down Edge. He would be a situational pass rusher.

 

He is going to get top 10 money. And he will more than likely earn every penny.

Simple question.  Do you think he is good against the run?

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He should have been traded but that ship has sailed.   I haven’t read anyone on here saying he shouldn’t get a fair deal.  He deserves that.  There are however a few people yourself included that are okay with giving him a mega deal.   And he ain’t worth that.   

 

You are the only one worried about some Mega Deal. Because you and a few others don't think he's worth that. 

 

He will be getting a top Edge salary, and he'll get it because he will/has earned it.

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Simple question.  Do you think he is good against the run?

 

He is good against the run. He is better against the run than way too many Panther fans care to admit.

 

I love how some fans can believe one thing, and then cannot understand how everyone doesn't feel the same way?

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Just now, Gerry Green said:

 

You are the only one worried about some Mega Deal. Because you and a few others don't think he's worth that. 

 

He will be getting a top Edge salary, and he'll get it because he will/has earned it.

He is going to get a top edge salary because we decided to keep him instead of trading him. Now we have to pay whatever he is asking. 

Burns has 38 sacks since entering the league, good for 11th. He is also not good against the run. 

So lets recap, he is not among the best of the best at rushing the passer and he is a liability in the run game, yet he has earned top dollar? Something isnt adding up. 

The top guys Watt (57.5) and Garrett (54) have dwarfed his numbers in less games played. 

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