Is Nick Hayden the Most Ineffective Player in Panthers History?

[Rhys]

Bingo.

That is the point. Hayen isn't a good or particularly effective player, but we are stuck with him and there aint much out there which will be any better.

Why did I get so worked up about this thread? Because there are a million more significant things going on with our team. Nick Hayden really is one of our lesser worries, as like you pointed out, he won't be playing much if at all for us.

I just could not understand, after this game, that Nick Hayden is the one who was focused on for rage. It's like kicking a puppy. We know the guy has limitations already, so why would we just pile more on?

Only reason I stated what seemed to enrage you was because the OP did not really seem to think he was exaggerating as he followed his post up with more of the same.

What was childish, was the thread having little to no insight or point.

OK fair enough. I interpreted it as him completely exaggerating, out of frustration, and I understand it's overall little relevance outside of us not having an up to snuff run D.

The thread is a speck in a sea of complaint threads about particular players though.

But I see where you're coming from, I recant my rage post

[jramsey4]

Yeah and this is the guy we kept and cut Ra'Shon Harris. Brilliant. I told you that would come back to bite us.

[Sam Mills Fan]

Nick Hayden really is terrible. People have been saying this since the first defensive series of the preseason....well actually they've been saying it since the Giants game last season. I'll never forget Brandon Jacobs trucking him so hard that he fell through the back of the end zone...that should never happen to an NFL defensive tackle period.

[raleigh-panther]

Adrian Peterson will just run wild next week.

Chester Taylor will run wild next week.

Farve, well, he doesn't need to do anything.

[Raleighcat83]

Sorry if this sounded childish to anyone. I just can't remember a player looking as totally ineffective to me as Hayden has. I'm not trying to place blame on Fox, Hurney, or anybody else, it just seems like he's completely outmatched at this level, more so even than other backup defensive linemen. Personally, I think Fox is a good coach and we're unlikely to get better by firing him, but that's probably an unpopular opinion also.

[Mr. Scot]

I was ready to call for him to be cut on the spot the way he played that TD run.

[Oldschool Leroy]

dollar for dollar, he is not the worst ever. I think he has improved.

[DaCityKats]

dollar for dollar, he is not the worst ever. I think he has improved.

he went from sucking monkey balls to sucking ass.i have never seen a dt get abused like him ever.

[Argus Plexus]

I didn't watch him too much. I was watching Beason, Peppers, Harris, and Captain the whole time the defense was on the field.

[Fright]

I love this guy. He's the only thing that can make me smile during our games anymore. Seeing him back peddle so fast every run play is quite a good laugh.

[micnificent28]

man nick sucks big floppie donkie d!%&. this dude is what defensive cords fear lining up opposite another teams o line. i cant put into words the abomination that nick is. if suck had a son and that son sucked then i think that sons dog had a pet that would be nick. come on isnt their a practice squad dt somewhere better than this?????

[Panthro]

"Whats going on around here?"

[Guild]

If Hayden gets his feet to work right then he could be a good backup.

Until then he is going to get pushed around like a sack of meat.

[rayzor]

landon johnson.